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Interesting option on the No9 Bayo

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Topic: Interesting option on the No9 Bayo
Posted By: Zed
Subject: Interesting option on the No9 Bayo
Date Posted: July 05 2018 at 12:33pm
Gent's, I've found an odd No9 bayonnet for sale on a French site. It has a knuckle duster handle attachment.
Personally I think it's home made; with a dodgy looking arrow stamp on it. 
Or is it someone's  Special Forces collection holy grail? 
here's the link:
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Trench-knife-Anglais-item-4718652.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.naturabuy.fr/Trench-knife-Anglais-item-4718652.html


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: July 05 2018 at 1:41pm
I'd go for "dodgy". Definitely not "issue", maybe a bored squaddie wasting time, but thats as close as I think it comes.

It looks like someone had a barrel stub, a bayonet & time on their hands.
Dead


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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: July 05 2018 at 2:10pm
Uh.....well interesting but I wouldn't bet my life on using it with success if I were in a trench battle.

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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: July 05 2018 at 11:22pm
The price is as dodgy as the item!Wacko


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: July 06 2018 at 6:19am
Rare! Collectable! Unique hand-made item!
Censored


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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: July 06 2018 at 7:28pm
never saw one of these before but looks based on the entrenching tool adaptaions if i had to guess , i like it , its an interesting item , 


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 07 2018 at 2:57am
Well, I have a No 9 bayo & scabbard to sell off, if your interested in making one!

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Posted By: Pukka Bundook
Date Posted: July 07 2018 at 5:47am
I made a "handle" for a No 9 years ago.  Figured it seemed a shame a decent blade didn't have a handle!
The one in the opening post looks rather hard to hold, the grip being round and all.


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: July 07 2018 at 6:26am
How much money, in US dollars, is that bayonet worth? I'm not familiar with Euros or bayonets. All I know is I wouldn't want to get stuck by one! Especially one of the ones from WW1 that look like they could skewer about three people with one thrust!


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 07 2018 at 7:33am
Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

Well, I have a No 9 bayo & scabbard to sell off, if your interested in making one!


Is it Candian marked?

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: July 07 2018 at 8:23am
Originally posted by Honkytonk Honkytonk wrote:

How much money, in US dollars, is that bayonet worth? I'm not familiar with Euros or bayonets. All I know is I wouldn't want to get stuck by one! Especially one of the ones from WW1 that look like they could skewer about three people with one thrust!
Sarco are selling the bayonet & scabbard, but no frog, for US$30.oo


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: July 07 2018 at 10:34pm
well - no need to worry of scewreing three people as this did not exist in WWI - nor is it long enough , the no9 is similar to the no5 - all WWII or later and about a half at best the length more likely a third , not to say id like being scewered by it any more , all are nasty 

they go cheap in bayo prices as noted above , even with their scabbard bits , 



Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 08 2018 at 3:16am
Paddy;

It doesn't appear to be marked at all.
I think I see a faint "S" stamp.
It still has some cosmo on it

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Posted By: Pedro
Date Posted: July 08 2018 at 8:18pm
Could well have been a "squaddie special". But it's just as likely to be some underhand work from an employee at one of the Ordinance Factories. Where the slightly bored worker could lay hands on the odd bayonet, together with a worn out barrel waiting for the chop lying about and a workshop with the required tools to cut the barrel and fabricate. Just the thing for a Saturday night in Liverpool. Doesn't explain how it got to France though.


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: July 09 2018 at 7:33pm
i agree - the bayo is most likely a legit - perhaps saveage - explains the faint S but the handle looks like someone with time on their hands did a fine job of it , if anyone finds something similar in a reference or has bought one in the past would love to know of it in detail , for now - ots trench art or fantasy item but a fun one to be sure - i would hold onto it ...unless someone offers you a proffit of course , 


Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: July 10 2018 at 4:22am
They are asking 340 Euro's!!
A good No9 Bayonet might be worth around 50 Euro's in Europe; so I think the seller is looking for a sucker to buy at that price.



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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: July 10 2018 at 7:19pm
me too - are you the one ? 

if you had the opportunity and it was cheap enough i might bite but i cant convert cash that well from dollars to euros so ill er on the side of caution and say NO , it sounds expensive for a fake to me - just sayin 


Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: July 11 2018 at 4:28am
That's almost 400 US dollar's at today's rate!Wacko


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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: July 11 2018 at 7:04pm
yup - thats too costly for a fake in my book , but kudos to whoever has the disposable cash and wants this in their inventory , its a nicely made piece but trench art on my list and i have very - very - little of that 


Posted By: Pedro
Date Posted: July 13 2018 at 8:03am
Zed, you're right. Even if it had some provenance as to where it came from, that's a lot of dosh. If it were priced at around the price of a normal No9 bayonet, or a little more, it might be worth it for novelty value, but otherwise, that would be a no for me.
I see there's a button that, if my French is holding up, gives you the option of making an offer. Don't suppose it would harm to make a cheeky one. You never know.



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