Large Game?
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Topic: Large Game?
Posted By: Chach VonChach
Subject: Large Game?
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 1:23am
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What sort of large game is the .303 effective against? In other words what game could be stopped with a .303 and what sort of game would you need a larger caliber? |
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Posted By: allan
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 5:55am
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well if ya ask Dave H mate im sure hes shot everything under the sun with a .303.
camels, water buff damn they even hit elephants with them. ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 6:55am
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Chach - there is NOTHING -NOTHING! on this continent that the .303 won't do a stroke of bisness on.In other words - its an "all purpose" firearm.& before ur friends start they're tongues to wagging....what U hit will STAY hit!! Don't believe all that crapola that ya need a 30.06.Moose, Caribou, Elk, Deer, Grizz, it don't matter.
I understand they used them on Elephants in Africa..Dave knows more on that subject. Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 6:58am
| It is all about projectile placement |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 7:41am
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Hey Chach, my deer i took this past season was with a .303 No1 MK III realy think that the round is a bit to much for white tail deer . even though she droped within 40 yrds from the spot i shot her in . Not realy that much messed up meat either . Maybe if she would of been 200 to 300 yrds out it might have been a mesier kill but she was only about 100 yrds at the most from me . realy a fairly close shot . should of brought my Daughters .410 shot gun for that easy shot! Oh by the way it was a lung shot and in the very spot i aimed. and my worker Donie at work realy thanked me for the heart. the man will eat just about any thing.... ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 7:43am
Thats right -Grasshopper...Listen to the Cookie...may the "crumb" be with you!  . Once you know your Enfield well, the placement will be there...& proper placement of shot is the hardest part of the hunt....well,that & making sure theres enough libation in the camp to celebrate that perfect shot! 
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 12:16pm
Correct Obi-Wan Kenobi .50cal Machine projectile will do no good if one does not know where it is going. I would not want to take pop at a Caped Buffalo and only graze him
 would not be a funny sight!!And as for the adult fermented beverages. It is an ancient ritual that must be done.
Cookie Monster |
hoadie wrote:Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 2:40pm
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WR: Contact Hoadie on PM if'n ya want a GREAT deer heart recpie.Theres a $5.00 fine @ my deer camp if'n ya hit 'em in the heart.Theres mighty fine eatin there!
Hoadie (Chef du Cuisine) ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 4:20pm
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WDM Bell probarly one of the Greatest Elephant hunters of all time (he accounted for more than a 1000 Elephants ) Was a Great avdercate of the 8mm (.318 ) the 7x57 Mauser & the 6.5 mm for hunting Elephants ! He always carried a .303 though in the Hope of catching a large herd to utrlize the 10 shot Magizine capasity ! He also used a Martini .303 carrying spare ronds between the fingers of his right hand & could fire it as fast as a Magizine rifle ! In my own humble experiance I accounted for several thousand Water Buff with the .303 ! Durring my Days as a Pet food shooter ! I always went for neck or Spine shots at a range of 10feet to 150 yrds ! The only time I ever found problems was when I failed to place my shots! I've yet to meet a camel that complained about being hit with a 303 ! If there was a Problem it was through me ! Red Deer (Sambar) which are about the size of your Elk drop cleanly with a well placed shot ! As every body has pointed out ! Bullet placement counts ! I would limit the effective range on any large game to 200yrds ! Yes I Know you hear of blokes hitting things at 400-600yrds ! Please note they hit things at that range .Not Kill straight away ! Drop where they stand ! Dave |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: April 10 2007 at 6:54am
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Will do just that, not for me but for Donnie at work and Adam , he too will try to eat anything. Adam caught this snake at the landing one day and showed up here , wanting me to cook it for him . Ha! I told him how to clean it and he took it to his Moms house and cooked it and ate some then coned every one who was out side at the time in the area to try some....
Yes he still lives today , he is a perty big guy! ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: April 10 2007 at 7:30am
would not want to take pop at a Caped Buffalo and only graze him would not be a funny sight!!
I dunno cookie the thought of 1 of those chasing a guy could be a very moving experience.  The crafty sods learned a trick or two and double back if you set out after them when they are wounded then pop out to have a go. ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 10 2007 at 10:22am
Bell ! Gives referance to Cape Buff ! He shot one at one stage with a .303! But he says that it was't a great Feat as he had shot them ,through both Lungs with a .22 Hi power savage!!!!!!  . It's well to note at this point ,this was a man who used to walk,into the Herd of Elephant & then let fly! As for Snake ? Tastes somewhere between Chicken & Fish ! If cooking over a open Fire it's adviseable to make a 1/4 inch cut behind every one of their 300+ ribs other wise they take on a very disconserning shape ! I think it's just the thought that put's people off ! I went to a Show one night ,that was Held in honour of some Africians that had emigrated ! I had eaten a lovely Curry& being the Guts I am ! A lovely Mozambezian Lady came over & asked me what I thought of the "Chicken Gizzards"? Kind of put the dampener on the second serve !!!!  As for the Lady in question ?????? Yeah well No comment on the second serve there (or the 3rd ,4th , 5th........... )Dave .....Eaticus Anythingus |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 11 2007 at 2:23am
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I had snake (dunno what genus) back when we were making the North & South mini series.Guys from the bayou in LA caught it & cooked it on a flat rock in the fire & coals.I dunno if it was they're home-made moonshine, or they're culinary prowess...but man! That was a night to remember.Tasted great(Both the 'shine & the snake!
Hoadie -Famishtus Ravicus ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: April 11 2007 at 9:46am
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Hey hoadie , my buddie Guidry that I served with killed some type of lizerd over in Iraq during the 1st Gulf war after eating MREs for so long and cooked it and at it. now every Yankey around was begging for a piece of that lizerd when it was done. I have another story about a Goose over thier but not the time to tell right now. ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: Smokey
Date Posted: May 11 2007 at 8:17am
| I have quite an assortment of large critters on my land that will stomp, chomp, claw and gore you. I often carry a No4 Mk2 while I'm out checking on the property. Sad thing is, the most dangerous critter of all you can hardly see. It's the deer tick, and the woods are crawling with them. They suck your blood and make you sick with some really nasty diseases, such as Lyme disease. |
Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: May 11 2007 at 12:02pm
yep Agreed plus rockey mountian spotted fever!!
CM
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Posted By: Lost Kangaroo
Date Posted: May 11 2007 at 1:07pm
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I am totally confident the .303 will make anything you hit well have second thoughts about attacking you, I will say that my 8mm mauser will not let you have a first thought let alone a second!! (not blasphemy, my enfields outnumber my mausers about 4 to 1!!)
------------- Get some |
Posted By: Smokey
Date Posted: July 02 2007 at 7:11pm
| Does anyone have any experience with the Hornady 150gr (.312) bullet? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: July 05 2007 at 12:58pm
Damn fine projectile ! Open well ,good weight retention . You could do a lot worse. Dave |
Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: July 05 2007 at 11:03pm
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Dave, Agreed an excellent round, only draw back it is slightly faster the HV MK VII Military rounds and you must allow for this when using iron sights CM
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: July 06 2007 at 1:37am
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Stupid question, My Ishy's came with 12 round mags and I bought a 10 rounder. I've thought of plugging a new mag to the 5 legal limit for my area. Are the, for example No.4 MkI and the other originals, convertable to 5 round mags with out hurting or altering the firearm? Please bear with me as I have never even handled anything but the Ishapores so I don't even know if the original 303 Enfields have detachable mags or are like the Mosin and SkS's. For large white tail deer in the 150 to 220 lb range is there a commercial grade 150 +/- to 180 grain SP? What would you guys recommend? thanks
Jim
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Posted By: Smokey
Date Posted: July 06 2007 at 6:59am
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Dave H and Cookie Monster, thanks for the response. My rifle is right on at 100 yards with the battle sight and the load, so I'm set. I'll be using it within 100 yards on bear, mountain lion etc ONLY IF they decide to be a problem. I'll use 150gr FMJs from Golden West for targets and plinking.
2ajim, all the SMLE's have a detachable magazine. If you have another magazine (not the original one for your rifle) go ahead and plug or modify it as needed. There might be places that sell 5-round magazines for your rifle as well.
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 09 2007 at 11:46pm
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There are commercial 5 round MAGAZINES available, but they are dear, & seem to be relativly rare.
Here -In Canada - The Lee Enfield rifle is SPECIFICALLY exempt from the magazine laws.(Most people don't take the time to find that out) So many of the MAGAZINES have been rivetted to only accept 5 rounds. Personally-I don't like that beacause it ruins the value & look of the RIFLE. It seems to work alright(I have a No4Mk1 like that) My M-42 is like that as well. Shop around.You SHOULD be able to access a 5 rounder somewhere. Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: sabretech2001
Date Posted: July 10 2007 at 12:35am
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Here's the link for 5 round mags for your Ishy.
$21.95 and they're in stock.
http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?TabID=7&Categoryid=13400&categorystring=10613***687***11341***10293 - http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?TabID=7&Categoryid=13400&categorystring=10613***687***11341***10293 *** ------------- No4 MkI*, Savage 1943, FTR (F) 1954 Mk1/3 No4 Mk2 ROF(F) 5/50 No2A1 RFI 1966 |
Posted By: Smokey
Date Posted: July 10 2007 at 6:35am
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http://www.enfield-rifles.com/member_profile.asp?PF=240&FID=18 - sabretech2001 , it says they are for the .308, would they work for the .303 British? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: July 22 2007 at 7:19pm
No Mate the 7.62 Mags & the .303 Mags are different. Even in shape ! #4 mags & Mk111 mags are also not interchangeable . I have seen 5 shot after market .303 mags adevitised dave |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: July 23 2007 at 6:32am
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Make sure its for the round you will shoot, I tride using my Ishy .308 mag with .303 rounds in my Yellow muzzle MK 111 it wont work and it will mess up your .308 mag.
Hey hoadie , Im going to have check out my Mag regs down here. or do what i did last year and go with out the mag.
Kinda how I found out .303 doesnt fit in a .308 Mag... ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: Smokey
Date Posted: July 23 2007 at 7:14am
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Kinda how I found out .303 doesnt fit in a .303 Mag...
I had to do some "adjusting" with my magazine to feed the 150gr loads.
I guess I'll stick to one basic load to avoid feeding problems should a bear or puma take exception to my presence.
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Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: July 23 2007 at 7:57am
The "Monster"
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Posted By: Smokey
Date Posted: July 24 2007 at 6:31am
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Being a rimmed cartridge, I expect factory ammo would be safe as well in the 303 British Ackley Improved. I haven't thought of modifying the rifle though; I expect my full-power loads would do the job. How much does the chamber mod usually cost? |