Great day!
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Topic: Great day!
Posted By: Honkytonk
Subject: Great day!
Date Posted: April 06 2019 at 11:07am
| For 30 years my go-to deer rifle has been a No4 M1(FTR 47) Sporter that I put in a walnut Bishop stock at that time. Always shot 150 gr pills out of it. Ever since I put the new furniture on back then, I never "bonded" with the hard shiny finish, but, it was and is such a good shooter, was scared to touch it. Today, while cleaning up the Man-Cave from a day of reloading, I found an old, intact bottle of Birchwood Casey compound. I decided to give it a go. OMG! The walnut looks like it aged, darkened, and mellowed about 50 years! Love it! |
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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: April 06 2019 at 11:50am
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NICE!!! Pics please!! ------------- Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 06 2019 at 3:55pm
| Great day turned into horror day!! After the furniture was looking great, I decided to look at the scope mount. Remember, I had this rifle for 30 years. When I put the Bishop stock on, I had a local gunsmith install a scope mount. Back then it was old school. Thin Weaver mount, D &T'ed with three screws, tip off rings.Typical for the times. I've tried (was successful) once before to remove one of these mounts. So, I could barely loosen two of the three machine screws. Probably 200# torque? I thought maybe the guy had used red Locktite so I preheated the machine screws. The most forward machine screw would not budge! Ended up hacksawing the mount over this screw. Aluminum mount gave way before that last screw. Luckily, there was a nib left and I could get a small vise grip on it. Back and forth. Got it! Filled the three holes with some blank machine screws. It's ready for another Addley mount.Remind me again? Why do we own these beasts? |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 06 2019 at 5:48pm
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You DO live on the prairie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 07 2019 at 4:56am
| Funny thing, Hoadie. I'm not sure about the rest of Canada, but here on the prairies back in the 70's and 80's that's how gunsmiths installed scopes on Lee Enfields. Not only had this guy used some kind of epoxy on the screws (it was white) he epoxied under the front part of the mount to the receiver! I'm still not sure how I got the darn thing off! |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: April 07 2019 at 5:25am
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It’s surprising how interests change. In the 60’s and 70’s, these rifles were practically given away, prices were much less than a new sporter at the time. I personally think the LE rifle looks much better in its origional form. That’s just me, I certainly mean no offense to those who have sporterized their rifle. But I also applaud those who want to resore them to the original configuration.
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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 07 2019 at 5:37am
| I believe the best looking Lee Enfield is the No4 Sniper (or clone.) In my opinion, and I'm sure it wasn't designed to do so, the lines are functional yet elegant. Beautiful! But I do admit a nice Sporter with a Monte Carlo walnut stock and optics is hard to beat for hunting. And it keeps this Calibre in the woods! Something not many other brands can brag about for length of service! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 07 2019 at 6:09am
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Must be nice to hunt on the prairie..where the ground is so flat you can see the mtns of Alberta! Bush is too thick here to use a scope...when the deer gets to movin' - puts a whole new meaning to the term "Fast Food"...try following that thru a scope in the bush  Become one huge blur..& the guy on the next property gets a deer cuz he had open sights!  ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Pukka Bundook
Date Posted: April 07 2019 at 6:21am
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H-Tonk, For a sporter, I don't think you can beat a Lee Speed type. No Monty-Carlos for me! :-) A straight stock won't try and bight you, and just looks right. I've found, that the better a rifle shoots, the more beautiful it becomes! :-) |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 07 2019 at 8:23am
| Pukka. I'm not real familiar with Lee Speed Enfields. Is that the same type as Val Kilmer used in that maneater lion movie? Are they even available in Canada? I'm now interested! Thanks! Just what I needed with a No1 MkIII being built for me! |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 07 2019 at 8:39am
| And yes, Hoadie, for your information, Manitoba does have trees, thank you very much! In fact, just this past fall hunt when me and buddy were driving to our regular site, we saw two! They were beauties! Good spot for a deer stand! Although here in Manitoba, we call deer stands truck seats! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 07 2019 at 11:14am
..I swear..if you drive thru northern Ontario & come to the Manitoba border..it flattens out INSTANTLY!! & you can see all the way to Alberta!!  I dunno what you folks in Manitoba are gonna do when B.C & Alta separate from Canada.( Sask might have "seaside property!! )------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 07 2019 at 3:18pm
| I'm really hoping they ask us to join them and let Ontario and Quebec deal with Trudeau! Not a fan... |
Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: April 07 2019 at 5:36pm
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Being a BC resident, I would welcome Alberta and the prairie provinces and territories/Yukon into a western confederation, with open arms and ready to do business. Move grain and oil products to markets with pipelines and rail lines, trucking, etc. The west is being shunned by the current regime in Ottawa. This thread has veered off topic though..... ------------- Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually |
Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 6:58am
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Back on track....There is a Lee Speed for sale over on Gunnutz. https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1960314-lee-speed-by-holland-and-holland-303?highlight=enfield+metford+martini+webley+MLM+MLE+LEC+RIC+303+smle" rel="nofollow - https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1960314-lee-speed-by-holland-and-holland-303?highlight=enfield+metford+martini+webley+MLM+MLE+LEC+RIC+303+smle ------------- . . Look to your front, mark your target when it comes! |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 7:08am
| Unfortunately, I don't subscribe to Gunutz so I can't view. Something about that site has always rubbed me the wrong way. |
Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 7:32am
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I will go get some pics and post them then. ------------- . . Look to your front, mark your target when it comes! |
Posted By: The Armourer
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 8:16am
I was a member for many years, then, one day went to log in and it was 'refused'. Thinking I had forgotten my name / password I tried to start a new account - I was refused. Did the 'contact admin' thing to be told that they no longer allowed non-Canadian residents. Gave up. Edit : I have just registered again and it looks like 'I'm in'. |
Honkytonk wrote:Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 9:15am
Pics        
The pics are not the best. It is a bit like trying to figure out the picture looking at a jigsaw puzzle one piece at a time.   No full length pic of the rifle/carbine. There appears to be some little issues. Seller is asking $4.5k. Still available if you are quick! What we have here is what I believe was a volunteer style rifle that has been sportered by LSA. The designation on the wrist, although not a govt marking, is not usually shown on sporting arms.
------------- . . Look to your front, mark your target when it comes! |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 9:22am
| I'm curious about the butt stock. Looks like a piece has been added although the grain of the wood seems to match. That price is out of my range. Thanks for sharing the pictures! |
Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 9:34am
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Ya, that line might be remnants of a slip on rubber pad. The thing isn't as it came from the H&H works. Sights have been changed. Receiver is drilled. Dont know about the barrel length or front sight. Perhaps there is a reason for not showing certain details? This was once a high end rifle nicely finished. Lots of custom options present. Not sure if it comes cased with accessories. Price tag is a bit optimistic. But hey, it is easier to ask high and be haggled down than it is to ask low and haggle up.
------------- . . Look to your front, mark your target when it comes! |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 9:54am
| I've always believed people can ask whatever they want for articles for sale. They own it. As a potential buyer, I can choose to pay the price or not. As I'm not much of a d**kerer, I tend to buy things that in my mind is in my price range for a particular product, and pass on those that aren't. |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 3:37pm
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That's an interesting rear sight (& mounting place for it) I like the flip up or ghost ring idea, but I'm not sure how repeatable the position of the cocking piece is????
------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 5:02pm
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What I find interesting is that this LSA made example has variations on those made by BSA. LSA was a much lower volume maker. LSA Lee Speeds appear to be less common, if not rare. This one has a carbine receiver (no volley provision and nice rounded edges) but the magazine is military style five rounder and the trigger guard is of the long Lee rifle rifle type. It would likely have been a barreled action bought in by H&H, then stocked in select wood, engraved and finished. I questioned the rear sight too. The peep sight on the cocking piece was quite common 'upgrade' back in the day. But that doesn't mean that it held zero. It gives one a longer sight radius and an aperture. But it must be repeatable when the cocking piece bent sits on the sear, otherwise the zero would be off every time a round was chambered. Sights like these were fitted to some high end rifles. I had a beater MLE that I stripped for parts. It had a safety catch dog bone spring attached by a longer screw into where the striker detent screw fits. Very simple field expedient that seemed to work well as a ghost ring. ------------- . . Look to your front, mark your target when it comes! |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: February 03 2020 at 6:12am
| I think I found a Lee Speed on a Canadian sight. They call it a Vintage 1896 Lee Enfield No1. It has a 10 round magazine. I thought they were 5. He wants $750. |
Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: February 03 2020 at 11:31am
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It is an ex-service long rifle cut down into a sporter. Not a Lee Speed style sporter by any stretch of the imagination. I had the twin to this rifle. Perhaps there was a gun smith back in the day making sporters turning them out the same style? The seller is asking a bit too much for a mediocre sporter that is irreversibly modified. I'd be going $350 max on that one, and only if the barrel was good. I pick them up for $200-250 in this state. ------------- . . Look to your front, mark your target when it comes! |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: February 03 2020 at 1:48pm
| Thank you so much for confirming my doubts! I thought something wasn't right. That's why I turned to the most knowledgeable! |
Posted By: Jsincopey
Date Posted: February 25 2020 at 3:17am
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actually I own this lee speed in this post.. lol I didn’t sell it yet.. I’m still unsure of value I had an over whelming response to it so I took It down
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