No. 4 Magazines
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Topic: No. 4 Magazines
Posted By: britrifles
Subject: No. 4 Magazines
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 1:47pm
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FYI, SARCO has new manufactured No. 4 magazines on sale, $19.95. 3 for $55 |
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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 2:41pm
| I just ordered one with my Sierra Matchkings. No4, original, vg condition, $40. CAD. I thought that was an ok price as I've seen them run around $60-70 around my neck of the woods. |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 6:52pm
...theres "woods" in Manitoba??  wow.. humph! who knew?  ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 7:14pm
| Any spot with two trees is called "the woods." Three or more trees is called a forrest. Hoadie. It may come as a surprise but I was born in Pembroke, On the. Lived in Camp Petawawa. Army brat. |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 08 2019 at 3:36am
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well HT...I suspect you were born at a very early age..ergo, you wouldn't remember what a real forest (like we have in Ontario) would look like. Course, living on a baking sheet has it's advantages...Like, you can wave at yer kin in the next town...& they can see you and wave back! ...and the view of the mountains in Alberta must be kinda nice..& when yer kid "runs away from home" you can watch him go - for days & days!! ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 09 2019 at 4:29pm
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Back on topic...if these newly manufactured #4 magazines are the Chinese knock offs then they need tweaking to work properly. I ordered 20 such new magazines from a Canadian company and 16 out of 20 needed new platforms/springs and some grinding at the rear of the magazine so they could function properly. PITA! And NONE of them came with the auxiliary spring up front! I am most likely going to convert mine to 5 round magazines and sell them at gun shows, hopefully. ------------- Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: May 09 2019 at 4:40pm
Brand new and they perform straight out of the wrapper
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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: May 09 2019 at 5:09pm
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Got the new mags today. The parkerizing is pretty rough and will need some work to get the platform to slide freely. They do have the aux spring. I’d say the originals are much better.
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 09 2019 at 7:19pm
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why does it seem to be so difficult to manufacture now - with better machines & tools - then before..when they made them by the tens of thousands with lesser quality machines? ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: May 09 2019 at 7:25pm
| Because now they are made for profit. Back then poor quality or performance could cost a man his life. |
Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 09 2019 at 9:10pm
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Good point, HT! ------------- Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 10 2019 at 3:43am
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well, that may be HT...but the way they wasted tens of thousands of lives - needlesley - in the field of battle, makes me think that the higher ups didn't give a wet rat's ass if a man's life was in the balance or not. ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: May 10 2019 at 4:05am
In the old day's people would be properly trained to do a job. That job would be inspected by another properly trained person. They would generally take pride in their work; as it was all too easy to get fired. These day's a lot of people have little training and no idea about quality or pride in their work. It's a sad state of affair's. You would not believe some of the crap quality I see on very expensive new vehicles these days.  ------------- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! |
Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: May 10 2019 at 4:57am
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Years ago I made the decision to buy only used, issued magazines no matter the state of the cosmetics. Old, rusty but works is better than New shinny and useless. ------------- Life.. a sexually transmitted condition that is invariably fatal. |
Posted By: pan957
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 9:52am
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Aftermarket magazines are always a roll of the dice. Varying degrees of quality. ------------- pan957 |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 12:07pm
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Yup strictly MilSurp for me. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 8:43pm
| this has been an interesting discussion , ive enjoyed the banter as well as the practical info and applied logic , its why this site is so great , thanks all , |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 8:56pm
| Riflemags.co.uk is an excellent source for brand new magazines for the No1 and No4 Enfield rifles. Construction and finish is beyond expectations and well worth the cost, when they are in stock. That being to only setback. I took the chance a purchased two ten round magazines and two 5 round magazines and after the necessary tweaks to the mags to function in the desired rifle properly, I ended up being extremely happy with the end results. The five round magazines are flush mount with a slight convexity to the bottom. |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 7:55am
| Wish they made a 7.62 mag for the No. 4. |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 8:46am
| Talk with MJ11 |
Posted By: pan957
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 10:35am
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I need one for a #4 MK2 7.62 with a Canadian Arsenal Barrel and bolt. Barrel is marked "CA" ------------- pan957 |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 12:27pm
Your particular rifle was built as a single shot rifle for slow fire competition by Canadian Arsenal and they typically retained the standard issue magazine. The magazine you are looking for to make yours cycle the 7.62 was made by Enfield for the L42A1 and will have CR 141A 65 stamped on the side. They are as rare as Unicorn poo and expensive to purchase when one is located. The one pictured cost me £250.00.
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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 12:34pm
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I might have to give up on that search. I was able to fit a 7.62 mag for the Ishapore 2A rifle. It is a repro, well made. It will feed the rounds fine but no positive ejection. I ground a bit off the inside edge of the extractor, and that helped, but still only weak ejection.
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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 1:13pm
Now I know the price and example of Unicorn poo. Have to keep a eye out for it. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Goosic wrote:Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 1:21pm
| Sterling made 7.62 magazines but I was told that they do not work as anticipated. Charnwood made them as well but I just assume that the ones that have those keep them in a bank vault next to the L42A1 magazine that sit next to a hoarded supply of toilet paper. |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 1:43pm
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Have corn cobs to trade for Enfield magazine. New unused fresh North Carolina corn cobs. Better than the finest tp. Send photo of magazine (s). ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 2:01pm
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Hopefully not British service issue "Army Form Blanks", commonly referred to a "Bronco" which I think was the maker. It didn't absorb so much as abrade! ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 2:03pm
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I pulled these from various interwebs and do not claim these as mine. Sterling magazine top and the Charnwood magazine in the bottom photo.
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Posted By: The Armourer
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 2:47pm
I actually had 3 magazines (numbered to the rifle) as issue with one of my Enforcers. https://postimg.cc/G9zzvFb9" rel="nofollow">  A few years ago (maybe 10 years) I managed to pick up about a dozen of the L42A1 magazines at a good price. Listed them on ebay 1 by 1 and they all sold to the USA at around £200 each |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 5:24pm
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Seems I’m too late. Just like I missed the days, not that long ago, of 1903 Springfields and M1917 Enfields sold through the CMP for $300. |
Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: June 05 2020 at 4:25am
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Suggestion... When looking for the 7.62 magazine, don't ask for one for the L42A1 ask for Enfield Envoy. They are usually a bit less expensive. ------------- Life.. a sexually transmitted condition that is invariably fatal. |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: June 05 2020 at 5:17am
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Good to know. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: idahomie
Date Posted: June 06 2020 at 5:41pm
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Greetings gentlemen, I am new to this forum but not new to guns, rifles in particular as I was in the marines when the first space shuttle blew up (dating myself) but I am new to the enfield club having just been given one by a friend who upon moving into a house he bought found the rifle rat holed away somewhere and didn’t want it and knowing that am somewhat of a rifle buff gave it to me. I don’t know much about the rifle however I do know that the wrist ring has a date of 1904 on it and the barrel and the receiver serial numbers match... oh and the riflings and chamber look as though they were cut yesterday. Alas, it has been sporterized but to what extent I know not, I would like to start shooting it but would like to do so safely, also it is missing the magazine. I understand that the no.1 and later rifles have different mags, can someone please let me know what to check on the action for possible problems, troubles, where I can get the correct magazine for my rifle and some safe starting loads, I have Hornady 150 gr. Soft points also some 123 gr. Bullets that I understand will shoot well enough For plinking. Reading your posts I can see that many of you know allot about these wonderful pieces of history, anything will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ------------- God, Family, Freedom, everything else is superfluous. |
Posted By: pan957
Date Posted: June 08 2020 at 10:19am
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Could you please post some pictures? A closeup of the right wrist area metal showing the make & model would help. ------------- pan957 |
Posted By: Zanestrizz
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 9:48pm
| anybody used one of these mags with luck? Or are they even still available? I am in desperate need of a mag. 5 round or 10 not picky!! For no.4 mk1*. I don’t have a mag at all right now and would be much more enjoyable to have one!!🙃 every single gun store and their mother are sold out or $150!! 🤯 i would continue single shot for that cost🙄 |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 21 2021 at 5:36am
PM me when you see this.
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 21 2021 at 10:20am
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Avoid "Pro-Mag" like the plague! But there is a British place making new 5 & 10 rounders. I have one & it works fine. The biggest problem is they can't keep up with demand. https://riflemags.co.uk/lee-enfield-no-4-10-round-303-magazine/" rel="nofollow - https://riflemags.co.uk/lee-enfield-no-4-10-round-303-magazine/ ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: flatheadsal
Date Posted: April 21 2021 at 4:21pm
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posted this awhile ago https://aimsurplus.com/parker-hale-enfield-4-magazine-10rd/?utm_source=AIM+Surplus+Main+List&utm_campaign=d520765a62-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_02_08_01_58_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6870497a6a-d520765a62-23097663&mc_cid=d520765a62&mc_eid=3107065927" rel="nofollow - https://aimsurplus.com/parker-hale-enfield-4-magazine-10rd/?utm_source=AIM+Surplus+Main+List&utm_campaign=d520765a62-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_02_08_01_58_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6870497a6a-d520765a62-23097663&mc_cid=d520765a62&mc_eid=3107065927
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Posted By: 303 Hunter
Date Posted: April 21 2021 at 8:20pm
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I had a Pro Mag and I didn’t think it was too bad. The biggest issue was that the floor plate is a separate piece from the sides, not one piece like the original magazine, and if you were not careful it would slide off, dropping all of rounds, the magazine follower and spring on the ground. ------------- The Lee Enfield is to the Canadian north what the Winchester repeater was to the American west. Cal Bablitz |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 22 2021 at 9:18am
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That would pretty much be a bad thing to me.  ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 22 2021 at 9:21am
| I PM'd the guy. I have a couple of spares I can part with. Now we wait... |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 22 2021 at 9:27am
| I had a Pro Mag for like 2 minutes. I put it in the rifles, the bottom fell out. Slide the bottom back on to the magazine (didn't feel tight) repeated the above, bottom fell out. Thought about brazing it, but gave my head a shake, returned it and bought an original of Gun Post for $60 CAD. I do have my name on the list for a five rounder from that place in the UK, but not holding my breath. |
Posted By: Doco Overboard
Date Posted: April 23 2021 at 4:44pm
I picked one of these up a few weeks ago when I seen your post, thanks for the heads up!  Couldn't beat it with a stick.
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Posted By: flatheadsal
Date Posted: April 23 2021 at 7:45pm
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 24 2021 at 10:31am
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Sweet. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |