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Lithgow Lee Enfield no1mk3 SMLE 1919

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Topic: Lithgow Lee Enfield no1mk3 SMLE 1919
Posted By: Witwillem
Subject: Lithgow Lee Enfield no1mk3 SMLE 1919
Date Posted: September 05 2019 at 10:46am
Hi Guys

Bear43 suggested that I share a little bit about my rifle.

It is a 1919 Lee Enfield no1mk3 SMLE from Lithgow Australia.
As far as the history goes, I only know that my grandfather used the rifle for sport shooting in the 1950's and early 1960's. He passed away in 1964. My dad looked after the rifle , keeping it in a good working condition. He took it out shooting a couple times in forty years. In 2017 the rifle became mine.
Very excited about my new old gun, I took it to the range.......it was bad, it didn't group at all. Ammo 174gr FMJBT PMP. Group size +/- 4"-5" and moving after a couple shots. After doing some research I found a book on Amazon "The 2012 Complete Book On Lee Enfield Accurizing". I removed all the old packing material that my grandfather put in between the barrel and forehand stock. I took a modern approach to accurize my classic battle rifle.
I glassed bed the receiver in the stock with the barrel against the bottom forehand stock. The reason for this is when I put the tensioning spring back it lifted the barrel off the forehand stock that gave me a floating barrel. I also trimmed the spring so that the barrel was in the centre of the nose cap.
Trying different types of ammo I found that it groups best with the Hornady 174gr Interlock Soft Point and Peregrine Bush Masters. Group size was now just above 1" at 100 meters. I'm very happy with his. This year I decided to go hunting wit me rifle celebrating its 100year anniversary.   



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Posted By: Bear43
Date Posted: September 05 2019 at 7:40pm
It sure is a pretty rifle and the family connection really makes it more valuable to you. Good on you for getting shooting well again and I loved seeing those pictures of the game you took with it.


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: September 05 2019 at 9:36pm
it is wonderful to hear you still have the rifle your father loved , sorry to hear of his passing but i see you have had many years to adjust - where has this been all this time ? 

glad to see it in such good nick , and happy to hear you have tried to make it yours in your efforts to shoot well with it , you need to remember these were battle rifles not target rifles tho , even though some have been improved to that status not all will do that , 
they were mass produced in times of war and needed to function to minute of man , not a score 
that said you sound like you have taken the steps to make this one work within modern methods to that level , glad you are getting those results - enjoy it , cherish it , pass it on to the next generation that care about it , it is how we save them , 


Posted By: Witwillem
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 7:40am


Posted By: Witwillem
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 7:41am


Posted By: Witwillem
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 7:41am


Posted By: Witwillem
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 7:42am


Posted By: Witwillem
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 7:43am


Posted By: Witwillem
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 7:44am


Posted By: Witwillem
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 8:00am


Posted By: Witwillem
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 8:01am


Posted By: Witwillem
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 8:02am


Posted By: Witwillem
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 8:02am


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 9:25am
Where the heck did you get those bullets?? I think I'm in love!


Posted By: Witwillem
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 11:23am
This is Peregrine 168gr Bush Master monolithic bullets from South Africa. Very nice hunting bullet, but not feeding smoothly thru magazine, Hornady Interlock round nose bullets gave me more or less same results with better feeding thru magazine. But they are beautiful and it helps when you spend some time polishing them with a metal polish. For me it is all in the presentation of the bullets. I hand load all of my bullets. These are loaded with Vihtavuori N140 39.5gr.


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 4:44pm
Very nice shooting rifle!  

We are the temporary custodians of these rifles and there will only be fewer as time passes.  We will do well to preserve them for future generations.  I sometimes struggle with how much I shoot mine, it’s hard to find original barrels in good condition.  On the other hand, who knows how long it will be until all firearms are banned from private ownership.  


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 5:14pm
Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

Very nice shooting rifle!  

We are the temporary custodians of these rifles and there will only be fewer as time passes.  We will do well to preserve them for future generations.  I sometimes struggle with how much I shoot mine, it’s hard to find original barrels in good condition.  On the other hand, who knows how long it will be until all firearms are banned from private ownership.  


That is so true.
But if the UN gets its way, a total ban on civiluan ownership may not be that far off, maybe before we're dead and forgotten.
Then stories will be told how great grandad had and used all those hoarable guns.

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shoot em if you got em


Posted By: The Armourer
Date Posted: September 06 2019 at 10:31pm
Originally posted by shiloh shiloh wrote:

Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

Very nice shooting rifle!  

We are the temporary custodians of these rifles and there will only be fewer as time passes.  We will do well to preserve them for future generations.  I sometimes struggle with how much I shoot mine, it’s hard to find original barrels in good condition.  On the other hand, who knows how long it will be until all firearms are banned from private ownership.  


That is so true.
But if the UN gets its way, a total ban on civiluan ownership may not be that far off, maybe before we're dead and forgotten.
Then stories will be told how great grandad had and used all those hoarable guns.


As I am sure you are available the US has already signed up to the UN plans to make home gunsmithing and home-loading illegal without a Government licence.

An article in one of the Shooting Magazines :

5.56 and 7.62mm ‘Outlawed’
A perennial question is about the difference if any between 7.62X51mm and .308 Winchester (or 5.45X45mm and .223 Remington). And while there are small differences primarily in the chamber and barrel throat forms, they are so nearly indistinguishable that the UK national police firearms licensing computer uses both terminologies together either side of an oblique to avoid problems if an FAC variation is for one, but the firearm is marked and proof-tested for the other. This applies particularly to British and Commonwealth TR (‘Target Rifle’) rifles that were classed as 7.62mm until recently, although current builds or recently rebarrelled examples now bear the .308 Winchester descriptions.

None of this would be of any great import if it weren’t for the United Nations having started a crusade against international movements of military small arms and ammunition except on a government-to-government basis. The problem is that 5.56 and 7.62mm are classified as ‘military’ period, no matter that it’s a single-shot target rifle and your pride and joy. This is a particular problem for anybody traveling across international boundaries as an early result has been airlines, through their international regulator IATA, accepting these rules and refusing to carry anything so marked or documented, even if on a dual basis as in ‘7.62mm / .308 Winchester’. The next worry is that as countries sign up to the various UN accords on this issue, we’ll suddenly discover that somebody has done this for the UK and unwittingly made ownership of every .308 Win rifle in the country illegal as our FACs invariable use the dual title in listing the weapons held. In any event ICFRA, the international target shooting body which regulates full bore rifle including our ‘Target Rifle’ and F-Class, has deleted all reference to the metric versions of the two cartridges in its rules and documentation, and I imagine that applies to our NRA too.

Firearms law researcher and writer Colin Greenwood has been investigating this UN process and his findings must be deeply unsettling for all sporting and recreational firearms users. The sub-committees tasked with producing reports and recommendations that are often accepted by the UN with little or no debate are secretive, refusing to disclose their membership or the remits they are working to. They will not divulge the basis of ‘facts’ contained in their reports, how research was carried out and where, who
was interviewed and so on. One fact that is clear are that they will NOT make any distinction between civilian sporting arms, (even shotguns), and military weapons, and that they believe that arms ownership is a bad thing per se. Greenwood is convinced that this is a movement towards international civilian arms control via the back door under the cloak of keeping AKs and RPGs out of the hands of African child soldiers or guerrillas.

Things may get ‘worse’ too in that the proposed conventions seek to ban the manufacture of arms and ammunition of ANY type and ANY calibre, except by government licensed concerns which must be closely regulated. Quite right too you might think, but remember that your gunsmith is an ‘arms constructor’, and you are an ‘ammunition' manufacturer’ if you hand load. Until now, the US government has been a bastion against this sort of undemocratic backdoor control by routinely telling the UN to naff off! Not so now under Barak Obama, the State Department allegedly signaling a change of policy here, its first move being to announce that export licenses will not be issued for any barrel chambered for 5.56 or 7.62 NATO destined for a commercial end-user.




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