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    Posted: February 19 2020 at 12:08pm
I experienced a very humbling day this morning and have more respect for people who can shoot accurately with target sights and iron sights. 
I put the PH5C setup with the Gehmann optics back on the Long Branch and set out to test my remaining Lapua D166 200grn .310" FMJ rebated BT's accordingly, without a scope. This was my first attempt at actually using the PH5C correctly. After getting all my bugs worked out on a test target I put up a fresh test target out to 100 yards and sent ten rounds down range. I was very proud of myself that I did what I did looking through a tiny diopter lens. After a few more tests and learning where my aim point was at with those heavy bullets, I set up an official 100 yard target and sent fifteen rounds down range. This was done without looking through the spotting scope until all rounds were exhausted.  I feel I did very well with this target as well even though I had one off shot. Whether or not it matters, the wind speed was 7.2 mph with a south easterly direction,  and a temperature of 48° at 0715 hrs when I started the test. I used a friends chronograph and the average muzzle velocity taken from the fifteen shot group was 2148 fps. The last photo shows where I put my front sight bead to get the groups as pictured.Againi,this was my actual first time using the PH5C setup and it was very humbling to say the least...
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That sure looks good to me.
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Thank you.
One thing that I did notice during the live fire was the felt recoil. It was very manageable and noticeably less then that of a 174grn bullet fired through the same weapon.
 However. It does come  down to the performance of the D166 bullets and if it is worth the price per 100 to continue with this endeavor.  It is of my opinion that these projectiles are very well built and perform outstandingly. They do however,need to be used in an Enfield rifle with a pristine and almost new barrel. Such as a new Criterion barrel perhaps? The FMJBT/FMJ/HPBT GRAF .311/.312 174grn projectile,especially those offered by Hornady,give outstanding results in the Enfield rifles and do so at almost half the cost. 
My LB has a new old stock,never been installed on a rifle,two groove barrel until it was installed on mine and reliably feeds these projectiles without fuss and is the only one that will. I will eventually deplete my remaining stock of the Lapua  D166 projectiles but,in the meantime, will continue using the .312 174grn BTHP GRAF bullets as my go to...
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 Goosic, the group (excluding the one low shot) is very good for aperture sights, about the best I can do in prone slow fire with a sling and shooting coat.  And that is the “correct” target for the CMP reduced range (100 yards) vintage military rifle match.  

Does the optic magnify the image at at all?  It would be very difficult for me to get a consistent aiming point that low on the target, I would not be able to see that small shaded circle at all without magnification.  Can you not lower the rear sight (about 6 minutes) such that you take a 6:00 hold on the black aiming mark of the target with the front sight?  

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The optics have a 1.5 magnification and just barely at that. I have a gold bead front sight that looks like  tiny led light when looking through the optics and if I continue making a circle in that same spot everytime,the gold bead covers it perfectly and I should be able to get better as time wears on. The rear sight is as low as it can go without the bolt hitting it when it is lifted up. 
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If you are open to experimenting, try a standard front sight blade, standard PH 5c aperture disk without the optic, and align the top of the front blade with the bottom of the black.  The front sight blade width will appear to be the same width of the black bull (aiming mark) of the target.  This will allow a very consistent point of aim.  I try to leave a very thin sliver of white target appear between the top of front sight blade and bottom of the black. I think this will work better for you.  


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I have an Alfred Parker rear sight with camera style adjustable iris with yellow tinted lens that,when installed I am able to get more then enough down clicks to get a more confident sight picture. 
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