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    Posted: January 22 2020 at 7:22pm
After getting my 1906 BSA SHT LE 1*** and putting about 60 rounds through her I decided to hunt down a proper bayonet. Wanted rarity, history, and service. I hope I achieved it with this  

Early Production, Pre WW1, 1909 Dated Hook Quillon 1st Type 1907 Pattern Sword Bayonet By Wilkinson marked To The 2nd Battalion Essex Regiment -  1st Pattern WD Scabbard With Internal Chape Marked ‘HGR09’. Sn 16126
A UK buy - big dealer - had great dealings in the past on RAF items. Not cheap for sure.

Also went with a 1914 Frog with 1915 stamp. Supple leather and a decent example.
Also UK dealer. A decent example was quite tough to hunt down - was hoping to find an example with a Helve carrier - rare rare birds.

These pieces are not easy to come by here is the states for sure!
Decent Enfields are not easy either - unless you just want a beater mix master shooter or complete restore.

I look forward to getting on book on the Essex Regiment. From what I can find so far Western front service for the 2nd Battalion as well as other service during WW1. If anyone knows a good site with lots of detail of more info I would love to know.

Don't have either yet - but counting the days until I can mate them together and to the Rifle.






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Originally posted by CivilWarAtl CivilWarAtl wrote:

If anyone knows a good site with lots of detail of more info I would love to know.



Try here :


https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/units/253/essex-regiment


2nd Battalion
04.08.1914 Stationed at Chatham as part of the 12th Brigade of the 4th Division and then moved to Cromer, Norwich and Harrow.
24.08.1914 Mobilised for war and landed at Havre, transferring to the 12th Brigade of the 36th Division.
05.11.1915 – 03.02.1916 attached to the 109th Brigade of the same Division, initially concentrated around Flesselles and attached to the 4th Division for trench familiarisation and training.
03.02.1916 Returned to the 12th Brigade, Division took over the front line section between the River Ancre and the Mailly-Maillet to Serre road and engaged in various actions including;
The Battle of Albert.
1917
The Battle of Messines, The Battle of Langemarck, The Cambrai Operations, The capture of Bourlon Wood.
1918
The Battle of St Quentin, The Actions at the Somme Crossings, The Battle of Rosieres, The Battle of Messines, The Battle of Bailleul, The First Battle of Kemmel Ridge, The Battle of Ypres, The Battle of Courtrai, The action of Ooteghem.
11.11.1918 Ended the war at Artres south of Valenciennes, France.
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Lovely bayonet. That will fit nicely with your 1906 rifle.
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No that's a knife! (Aussie accent!)
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The frog still has the strap for the Sirhind intrenching tool helve attached!
That's a nice plus, many of them were removed.

Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Shamu - if you run across a webbing or leather Helve carrier - I'm your man.

WOW those are rare - dont show up too often, when they do they get snatched up.

Not as pricey as the Wire Cutters for Enfields - but just darn hard to come by!

Thank for everyone's help!!! I have found some good reference books and sites online.
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very nice - i cannot get a good look but all looks correct and kosher to my old eyes - there are many fakes but im not seeing the tells on yours , that year production would be correct and i think you did well , 

the leather frog is quite nice as shamu mentions still sports bits often missing these days , glad you have joined us 
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Originally posted by CivilWarAtl CivilWarAtl wrote:

Shamu - if you run across a webbing or leather Helve carrier - I'm your man.

WOW those are rare - dont show up too often, when they do they get snatched up.

Not as pricey as the Wire Cutters for Enfields - but just darn hard to come by!

Thank for everyone's help!!! I have found some good reference books and sites online.

I wish!Cry
My Sirhind is in a Pat 37 webbing carrier.

Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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i think i recognize that . its the only i came across in many years of looking , needs a nice spike bayo for mine detection i think ......


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A Square 10 = WOW - I love that display case you have and assume made. Just top notch all the way!!!

I will hunt one down....one day....I'll find it!!!! - looking for just the Leather Helve Carrier that hooks to the Frog Back Strap and has 2 loops for the Helve. Google searches show they do pop up and are not too $$$$ - well they are not cheap - but not in the insane category.

I'm happy with my rig I have now - 1906 BSA Enfield - BEAUTIFUL patina and no doubt saw service most its whole life - WW1 and Irish Civil war almost certain. All the parts are correct for the life of the gun - where its been etc. GREAT shooter - very accurate. With the Volley Sites, Original Rear site, and single round cutoff - I think its a very unique and interesting old military girl. I also noticed the trigger guard has the chain link to hook to an original No 1 magazine (maybe I can find one one day!)

The 2nd Essex marked Bayonet should be quite a compliment. 

Having my WW1 numbers matching 1897 Winchester Pump Trench gun with a minty correct Winchester bayonet and sling, 1915 Erfurt arsenal produced numbers matching Gewher 98k Karabiner with 1915 Erfurt Butcher Bayonet AND (just arrived) correct 9 hole WW1 Karabiner sling - I am building out a nice WW1 arms collection. GREAT Group this is and great fun.

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Yup thats it. I have a No9 bayo for that.

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cool , any socket will do , i rotated that LB mkII to the long branch mkI/2 , 


CivilWarAtl , i did make the display it sat in my office for about 15 years , it ended up with a close friend when i moved out of that office , there were two , this one was two sided - commonwealth on the side shown and with 180deg rotation it displayed my US collection , the us side is 90%gone now - just have my handguns left of that , 

the other - i no longer have a photo of had the more modern rifles and bayos , no4s and 5s , SLRs 



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