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tnraines
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Topic: Restocking an enfieldPosted: December 07 2012 at 7:46am |
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I picked up a No4 Mk1 about 10years ago when I was in WV someone restocked it with a sporter style stock however they did not cut the barrel or anything. Other then needing some new wood/hardware and if possible a replacement ladder sight(small chip in it) Everything is shood be.
How hard is it to restock? Are there diagrams that show the parts needed? And side note: How do you tell how many grooves are in a barrel? |
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303Guy
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Posted: December 08 2012 at 3:24am |
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The number of grooves are easily visible. Stock replacement is easy but one does need to be careful with fitting the correct screw driver so as not to damage the screw slots. There are tricks to bedding the fore-end. It's best that someone with original fore-end fitting experience describes it. The Canadian military had a bedding instruction which is available on the net somewhere.
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Posted: December 08 2012 at 6:21am |
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Thank for the links
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Bear43
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Posted: December 09 2012 at 11:48pm |
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Go to this site and click the link for the manual: http://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=335-1991-No.4-(All-Marks)-.303-Rifle-Manuals-(Complete-Set)These are the Canadian manuals that 303Guy mentioned and they will tell you precisely how to fit the timber to a No 4. Read the manual carefully and fully understand everything before you start. Putting on the wood isn't overly difficult but it does have to be precisely done.
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Posted: December 10 2012 at 2:31am |
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congrats on getting to this restoration project we do love to hear these things and look forward to seeing some photos when you get er done
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Posted: January 01 2013 at 1:36am |
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Ok it's official...I'm giddy! This forum has the best information resources I've ever found on a forum.
You guys are outstanding - thank you!
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yeah...whatever.
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cbturner
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Posted: January 02 2013 at 2:33pm |
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So I got this enfield from an ex's mom for 50$ buck with a 16 Hayes shot gun finally tracked down what it was but it has some issuses its been sporterized and it is missing its blot it say
Gr 1918 Shtle III Wondering how much it would cost to restore to origanal Stock ,get a bolt action ect. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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hoadie
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Posted: January 03 2013 at 1:13am |
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GR stands for King George(the one named after me!) He was the grand poo-bah in 1918.
It was made in 1918, & its a short Lee Enfield. BUT...its hard to tell by the pics - is that pitting/rust on the otside of the barrel? Whats the bore like? You have any idea what happened to the bolt? THATS the rub. The bolt & barrel shud match in #'s.You can get another to fit-but it takes some money & time.It also ruins the re-sale value somewhat. But if you fix it up, it could be a great hunt rifle.303 will take ANYTHING on this continent. Wot are the other markings? Hoadie |
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Loose wimmen tightened here
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cbturner
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Posted: January 03 2013 at 8:44am |
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It's rust the inside isn't bad as for the bolt I searched everyweare in the house (where I was aloud) but couldn't find it, back at the end of where the bolt should be its an ssa Other than that of mostly looks like inspector markings i see 18.5 tcns per fallowed by a square
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Bear43
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Posted: January 03 2013 at 10:18am |
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SSA is the manufacturer. It would cost a lot to restore this rifle, but the fact that it is an SSA receiver and the barrel is uncut are both good things. A stock set is easy, the expensive and time consuming part is a bolt. Once you get a bolt it has to be properly fitted to the receiver so the locking lugs bear properly. Then comes the issue of a properly fitted bolt head. Unfortunately it's not as simple as getting some parts and slapping it together. In a nutshe!!, once the rifle is restored you will have more into it than it is actually worth. If that is acceptable to you then we are more than willing to help.
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Posted: January 03 2013 at 10:58am |
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I am I like this gun a lot it isn't my families airloom but I would like it to become one
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Bear43
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Posted: January 04 2013 at 4:16am |
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I like that kind of attitude
If it were mine the very first thing I would do is tear it down and tackle that rust. You want that gone pronto. Then comes dealing with the bolt. You can find them from many different places including gunbroker.com, ssporters.com, e-gunparts.com. Try and get a complete bolt, it's usually the best value for the money. The bolts will be spendy and the first one you get may not fit properly, so be prepared for this project to take a long time. Once you have a bolt you need to get some engineer's blue or something similar to mark the locking lugs to see if they bear evenly on the receiver. If not then that can be remedied to a small degree if it is close. If it isn't close to bearing on the locking lugs evenly then it's on to a different bolt. Once you get a bolt we can walk you through fitting it in much more detail. Keep us posted on the progress and search for parts. Oh, and go visit e-gunparts.com and look at the schematics the the No 1 Mk III* in the SMLE section. It will give you a good idea as to what all you will need.
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Posted: January 04 2013 at 8:29am |
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There is a gunshop in Auckland that has bolts for NZ$50. I bought on I like and fitted it to one of my rifle for lighter loads without checking anything. But I stress I only use moderate loads in it - it is an old and is losing it's locking lug recess hardened layer. (The barrel is off it and will go back on with a shortened chamber to prevent full power loads being fired in it).
Nice butt-piece!
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Posted: January 04 2013 at 2:45pm |
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Thanks for the advise ya it is in pretty ruff shape I've been keeping it in a hard she!!ed gain case sense I got it but ill check it out and see what I can find
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Posted: January 04 2013 at 11:02pm |
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You bring up a good point, 303Guy. The bolt fitment on the locking lugs isn't quite as critical when using low to medium powered loads and said loads breathe new life into some well-worn rifles. I like how you are shortening the chambering to prevent putting in a full power cartridge, that is good thinking.
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Posted: January 07 2013 at 4:48am |
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i converted a couple older worn rifles to 22cal for just the same reasons
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