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    Posted: October 03 2020 at 7:55am
I’ve got two rifles that never were. The first bears a Numerich import stamp the other has no import marks. One is a cut down Ishapore 2A1 made to mimic a Jungle Carbine the other is also a cut down Ishapore and referred to as a Bulldog Tanker Carbine. Both needed extensive work to the recoil draws but turned them both into great fun shooters
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I always kinda sorts wanted the tanker, but as a No4.
Then I heard about several of them literally blowing the front end off where the shortened stock was re-spliced under the sling swivel band!
I lost interest at that point.

Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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The story was true.
Mine did exactly that. The splice was literally put together with Some sort of paste and a wooden dowel. I did a proper repair using Acraglas and inlaid brass pins. 100 rounds later and no more issues.
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Gibbs Rifle Company made them for a time. My dad has both of those rifles pictured. The story told to him from a private seller was that they were one off rifles and never put into service. I fpund out later in life that Gubbs Rifle Company,now Navy Arms made them. Visit their website.
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You and your Dad are correct. I have done some reading about Gibbs and Navy Arms. I intend to contact N/A to ask if they have any documented history on these rifles.
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They also made one to fire the 45/70.
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not familiar with that one.
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Goosic. I remember seeing adverts in late 70's and 80's on the 45/70 Lee Enfield conversion. For some reason I remember the magazine didn't need replacing nor the bolt. I think it was just the barrel, but I could be wrong as it was ages ago. Even back then I thought it would be a cool rifle. American Rifle? The magazine was called something like that. I thought it was Gibbs.
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THAT would stop most anything in it's hooves or paws!
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The magazine was redeveloped as a 4 or 5 round single stack. I had alot of magazine articles on this rifle as a teenager. Gibbs refers to the Jungle Carbine as the Gibbs Enfield Aussie No7 and the No4 as the Summit Frontier 45/70 Carbine.
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it’s amazing that there are so many variations.
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That looks great sporterized.
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How about a sporterized No4Mk1/2 Maltby rebarrelled to fire 7.62x51mm NATO rounds that i just finished this morning?
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Wherever did you find that beautiful buttstock?
It’s a thing of beauty.
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FWIW most of the "shortened" Gibbs rifles were made that way because of cord wear at the muzzle from incorrect, or over use of the pull through.
The simply chopped off the worn section, re-crowned & trimmed the wood, & Bingo done!
"The Gibbs Rifle Co", should NOT be confused with the original "J & G Gibbs" in England who made (& still make) one off, hand crafted bespoke rifles!
I was lucky they were my LGS growing up in Bristol!

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