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    Posted: May 04 2020 at 8:01pm
Hi all, 

I'm a new member to the forum and I just wanted to show off my rifles.  Looking forward to learning more about enfields.  

I've got 4 to start with but I'm always browsing gunbroker hoping to find a deal and add to my collection.



Top is a sporterized by Long Branch No4 Mk1*
I'm not really sure what the next one down is.  The scope mount is covering it up. 
Then I have a Lithgow No1 Mk3*
And the bottom I believe is one of the Irish Enfields No4 Mk2 (F)

Have a good night everyone.


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..............Wink................

Welcome and thank you for sharing.
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hi what year of manufacture is your lithgow 
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It's a 1945.  I cant find too many markings, I'm wondering if it was a refurbished rifle?  Probably a rebuild of some sort.

Besides a couple tiny safe dings in the stock and some slight wear on the bolt from working the action; the rifle was in unissued condition until I loaded up the magazine and shot 10 rounds through her.  
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nice looking set.  Welcome!

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very nice , they all look to be in great condition , 

nice FAZ mk2 , not at all questioning the veracity of the claim ".. one of the Irish Enfields No4 Mk2 (F).." just wondering how you arrived at the conclusion ?
the contract rifles covered a very large section of production and only a very few fell into that serial range , 
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Thank you,

And no worries, I've got thick skin either way.  I'm not very educated on Lee Enfield's, most of my information just comes from google.  But, in this case the rifle falls within the serial numbers people have been posting.  I'm not sure if that's enough to authenticate the rifle as being an Irish contract.  But, I hope it is authentic.  

Either way, I'm happy to own it.  I'm posting an image to it's serial number.  Maybe someone can confirm it.
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Very nice collection! Welcome! From past and present posts over the last several decades, I'm curious. Just how big was this Irish contract? 
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Thank you,

Ive been seening claims that they are serial range PF309348 to PF359347 and 1955 was the last year for them.  
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everone here knows me well enough to attest no ill intent but thanks for the added info , 

there were at least 15 contracts im aware of , IIRC the irish was 50k - the largest of all of them , from PF 300348 to PF 359347 , i might be off a little just going by notes , 

the smallest was hong kong at 10 rifles , mine fell in the burma - second largest at just over 39k , 
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There are a number of 'lists' showing slightly differing numbers but this one is (probably) the most commonly used one :


PF301547-PF304047 Anglo Egyptian Sudan 2,500
PF 309348-PF359347 Irish Republic 50,000
PF359348-PF359817 Zambia 70
PF359818-PF359952 Singapore 135
PF 359952-PF360052 Jamaica 100
PF360053-PF360202 Trinidad 150
PF360263-PF360238 St. Vincent 36
PF360239-PF360258 St. Kitts 36
PF360460-PF381159 Uganda 20,700
PF361260-PF401086 Burma 38,827
PF 405293-PF405412 St Vincent 20
PF407449-PF407648 Trinidad 200
PF407849-PF407728 Zanzibar 80
PF411265-PF411461 Kenya 197
PF411462-PF411471 Hong Kong 10

Other contracts included :

PF 250948 PF 301547 British Army 50,600

PF 304048 PF 309347 N/K 5300

PF 359348 PF 359747 N/K 400

PF 360053 PF 360202 Trinidad

PF 360203 PF 360238 St Vincent

PF 360259 PF 360459 War Office ?

PF 361160 PF 361259 Parker Hale

PF 401087 PF 401495 409 Made into No 4 (T)

PF 401496 PF 404156 N/K 2661

PF 401157 PF 404206 Parker Hale

PF 404207 PF 405392 N/K 1186



Circa 1954



PF 405413 PF 405512 N/K 100

PF 405513 PF 405712 Admiralty 100

PF 405713 PF 405812 N/K 100

PF 405813 PF 405848 G E Fulton (Bisley)

PF 405849 PF 407448 N/K 1600

PF 407729 PF 411228 N/K 3500

PF 411229 PF 411264 G E Fulton (Bisley)

PF 411472 PF 412789 N/K 1318




So, Ireland took as many as the British Army, not especially 'collectable' compared to many of the other contracts.
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Nice start to your collection. I think the 2nd rifle down may be a sporter by Parker Hale.
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Sorry if I sounded harsh in regards to the my post in regards to "Irish Contract" Lee Enfields. To the more learned members, this contact amounted to how many rifles being produced? I agree with Zed on the Parker Hale. The recoil pad looks a little ill fitted, and I'm curious as to what appears to be some kind of aluminum block fitted under the front bell of the scope? With some TLC, that Sporter could look really nice!
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Originally posted by Honkytonk Honkytonk wrote:

I'm curious as to what appears to be some kind of aluminum block fitted under the front bell of the scope?


It looks as if 3 out of the 4 rifles have 'aluminium blocks' with a label stuck on, to angle the rifle for getting better pictures.



(Note correct spelling of Aluminium - Aluminium was named after alum, which is called 'alumen' in Latin. This name was given by Humphry Davy, an English chemist in 1808) to be in keeping with other elements such as potassium and sodium).

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I stand corrected in my spelling of aluminium... and of course that is why it is used in the pictures on further viewing. 
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