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    Posted: March 29 2014 at 11:14pm
headstamps, left to right: RG 77, B 15 Vll, 12 D^C 07 CVl[IMG][/IMG]

The first cartridge is for the SA80
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Forgot to identify these cartridges in my photo:


left: British 4.85x49mm tracer

middle Mark 7 from 1915


right   Mark 6 from 1907
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"The first cartridge is for the SA80 ~  British 4.85x49mm tracer"
Does this mean they re finally chambering the SA80 in something other than 5.56/.223?
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The 4.85x49mm was chambered before the 5.56mm in the SA80
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WOW! I never thought I'd hear of anyone upgrading to 5.56mm.Cry
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Big upgrade from the 4.85mm (0.192 bullet) to the 224 caliber of the 5,56mm
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I have learn some thing new today.
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me too , didnt realize the SA80 had been a different caliber before it was 556 nato 
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The SA80 was copied (internal parts) from what US rifle ? the bullpup stock was British
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The guts were from an AR 18 IIRC. They were made by Sterling, a British company, best known for the Sterling sub machine gun. I don't know of any U.S. design features?.
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You are correct, the AR18/180 bolt and bolt carrier were copied on a single recoil spring was used. I think the bullpup design was left over from the EM2 designs.
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