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has the rifle been sported ? i could see it then but if original why alter what was a hand fitted assembly meant to stay together , the enfield magazine boxes were never meant to be removed save maintenance and cleaning , 
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I think, if I read his post correctly, that he has one, but also wants a spare to go with it?
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Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

has the rifle been sported ? i could see it then but if original why alter what was a hand fitted assembly meant to stay together , the enfield magazine boxes were never meant to be removed save maintenance and cleaning , 


Michael good question 
No she has not been sported yet a rare rifle I have been told 
The answer for the spare magazine is I have 1000 Berdan Primers and I plan on loading magazines with boxer primed rounds and keeping them separated and loading the 2nd magazine with Berdan Primered rounds 
I would not modify the rifle in any way if we can get it to work with any modifications to the magazine then I would not go any further.
Pictured rifle we are working on is the one in the back


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The answer for the spare magazine is I have 1000 Berdan Primers and I plan on loading magazines with boxer primed rounds and keeping them separated and loading the 2nd magazine with Berdan Primered rounds 

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The Enfield magazine was not designed for repeated removal and insertion, the 'ears' are quite delicate and removing the mag, keeping it in your pocket etc, refitting the mag WILL result in displacing the 'ears' - it literally only takes a "few thou" to make the mag not feed correctly.

This is why each magazine needs to be hand fitted to each rifle, and why they are numbered to the rifle - they are rarely interchangable without a bit of tweaking.

Your rifle, you can do as you wish, but changing over mags could result in a frustrated days shooting when it refuses to feed.
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Jeff, any particular reason you want to load the Berdan primed cartridges in a separate magazine? Of course, they will feed and function the same way the Boxer primed cases will.  I’m just curious what your reason for the two mags are…

The others are correct, the mags do take fitting to the rifle and rarely are interchangeable without tweaking.  I only remove them for cleaning. 

With the scope fitted, you have to load rounds into the mag one at a tome, can’t use a charger.  Or remove the mag and load it separately. I tend to do the former.  

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Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

Jeff, any particular reason you want to load the Berdan primed cartridges in a separate magazine? Of course, they will feed and function the same way the Boxer primed cases will.  I’m just curious what your reason for the two mags are…

The others are correct, the mags do take fitting to the rifle and rarely are interchangeable without tweaking.  I only remove them for cleaning. 

With the scope fitted, you have to load rounds into the mag one at a tome, can’t use a charger.  Or remove the mag and load it separately. I tend to do the former.  


Main reason is to keep them separate for reloading purposes 
I agree with the scope on top I find it easier to remove the magazine and load it then insert into the riffle 
My goal is not to mix up the boxer/Berdan brass , I am starting to think the extra magazine in not a good idea ,  I knew a little fitting would be required. Maybe it’s not worth it.
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You could always put a dot on the bottom of the cartridge with a Sharpie to tell the two apart.
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Your reloads should be packed in boxes or cartons with a label to identify the load details.  Otherwise, one day, you will wonder what the loads are!   




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I tried the sharpie dot on the bottom trick. Although I used the primer figuring the ID would go away during, but not before, the reloading process.
It didn't end well, the dot simply vanished on firing!Cry
Maybe somewhere on the actual case will work though.

Re the magazine:
Snipers usually single-loaded, they just used the magazine follower as a "loading platform".
I've found with my scoped rifles the best loading technique is to insert the bullet tip into the breech a little, then "roll" the case down & rearwards into the top of the magazine. Then push fully to the rear. This seats  is easier done than described & prevents the infamous "rimlock" jam.
Yes its a very good price especially nowadays. The one shown seems to have lots of "Free Patina"LOL & beware the "may vary from whats shown"Shocked but they may have nicer ones too, maybe ask them first.
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Jeff, you should not have a problem “mixing up” the berdan brass with the boxer brass.  Those Berdan cases are easily identified by the headstamp.  

Once they are fired, if you’re not sure, shine a light down the case mouth and you will see the two small holes.  You don’t want to inadvertently run those into a full length sizing die, you will bend or break the decapping pin.

I have used a sharpie before to identify individual cases where I noted loose primer pockets during the priming step (.223). I use a red sharpie to encircle the primer.  After firing, I could still see the sharpie marks and discard those cases.  

I can’t imagine using magazines to separate your reloads…gosh, I would need 50 magazines.  My reloads follow a specific code, “M” for Match, “SR” for Short Range, “LR” for Long range, “G” for game (don’t do many of those), then a number for different combinations of powders and bullets, a letter for different charge weights, and so on.  My current match load for .303 is M#15C. No way to keep that straight by loading magazines…





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Ok
I admit that I am slow on the uptake 
  but I now yield To getting the extra magazine 
I am going to focus on box layout of my reloaded cartridges 
My son & I found a 1500 yard range of BLM land 1.2 milers from the house it’s in Washington State just across the river from Umatilla I would like to see what this girl can do at 600 yards .
I have about 100 Berdan brass and 1,000 new primers 
I did gut the Berdan Primed ammunition that you guys cautioned me that it had corrosive primers 
I plan on reclaiming 15 and leaving the 50 in the green cloth carrier 
I may switch to using them and saving my boxer primed cases 
And switching to single shot in my humble opinion is a lot safer way to shoot anyway 
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BLM has their own range?
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Originally posted by Honkytonk Honkytonk wrote:

BLM has their own range?


No Pat it’s just public land owned by the bureau of Land Management 
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ok mthis thread went off , thanks for the reply , i understand your intent and although i might not agree i can see the need , 

as to a BLM range - im glad it got clarified to bureau of land management instead of the terrorist group we could all question today with their silence on the recent murder charges filed on five black cops here 
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