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I got given a large can of army issue BLO by an uncle who spent his compulsary military service months as an assistant armourer. He said the BLO used to be taken from the large dip tanks and has a nice dark golden colour which supposedly comes from the remains of the cosmoline lurking on the new rifles. My Uncle seemed to have "acquired" quite a few things from his CMS time including a couple of wrapped No4's . The BLO doesn't seem to keep a shine , and dries to a Matt finish. perhaps the traces of Cosmoline does this????
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Thanks Stumpkiller for the information. Will probably do the Bri-Wax on my rifle. Quick question about it, Do you put it on outside and inside the stock?
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BLO seems to darken with exposure to sunlight.
My blond Faz is a nice honey color now, but mostly its stored indoors except when camping or on range trips.
BUT I used some of the same on a couple of white wood folding tables I keep outside & it looks like dark walnut now!
U.V. exposure maybe?
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Yes, UV exposure.  The walnut stocks that were treated with BLO turn very dark reddish.  Guys who buy new stocks stain them with a red colour stain first to try and replicate the aged look.  
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Originally posted by 303 Hunter 303 Hunter wrote:

Thanks Stumpkiller for the information. Will probably do the Bri-Wax on my rifle. Quick question about it, Do you put it on outside and inside the stock?


I don't.  Just the outside.  I suppose it couldn't hurt to do the inside as well.
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Originally posted by WilliamS WilliamS wrote:

Stumpkiller, thanks for the tips but the idea behind these rebuilds is to make them appear as they did in service, down to the correct finish where practicable (I won't be oil-blacking receivers for example because of the heat treat issues it might cause).  So in this case even though RLO might not be the easiest to work with, or give the nicest finish, since it is the correct military finish that's what I'll be applying. 


  Thumbs Up  Understood.  A restoration is a different beast.  As I said, I was not describing a military finish.  And the weapons oil, body oils, heat and grime all worked it's way into a raw linseed oil finished stock that added to "character" and is hard to duplicate.   Though that black/ebony Bri-Wax I mentioned is a way to add "grunge" to the corners that can be controlled and undone.

I "undid" a Finnish M39 that was absolutely pickled in a hardened crust of whatever Cosmoline type asphalt it was entombed in.  Sticky to the touch.  It was cheap at a gunshop ($60 - some years ago) and I don't know the back story.  I ended up using a lot of cotton rags and turpentine to clean off the goo.   And for whatever reason there is not a hint of bluing or any original paint/enamel or other metal finish.  Just natural gray patina that I left be. 

I'm a shooter - not a collector - though I value the history.  Have an unadulterated Krag that was my Grandpa's (I assume DCM, though he was in WWI and the Army of Occupation afterwards) and that I don't mess with.  Though I used to shoot it on occasion.  Here's how the M39 turned out.

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Nice rifle and nice little buck! Great eating!! 
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Yep, nice buck. The rack looks to be a little bigger then the one I shoot this last season.
Nice rifle too.
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Wow, nice rifle and buck!  That stock is a real beauty, I love the figure in it.
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the rifle turned out really nice!  It’s great to hunt, isn’t it?

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Two coats in, it's starting to match pretty well.  I'm pretty happy with it.

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looking good , your getting a great match on these , 
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Very nice!
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Originally posted by Whitjr Whitjr wrote:

the rifle turned out really nice!  It’s great to hunt, isn’t it?

Yes it is.  In 2000 I lost access to the 6,000 acres I had been hunting for 20 years because they went to a leased privilege (I got kicked out of the ground blind I had pulled together over the years of vines and blowdowns in a perfect funnel spot on opening day) and that inspired me to sell our home and buy my own land (and home on it) with enough land that I no longer had to beg for permission.  Anger is a great motivator if you can channel it.  

May be smaller deer (woodland vs. farmland) but I can sleep in longer because I only have to walk out the back door.  And we have enough chickens for all our egg needs and then some.  Also shot a fallow deer that was a feral "game farm" (illegal - hence the fence malfunction) escapee.  That is a one-in-a-million occurrence.  Fewer funds for firearm goodies but more opportunity to shoot those on hand.

And I also have a 100 yard and 300 yard "range" for sighting and load development.  And on any given morning or evening I can look out the deck doors and have an excuse to dissuade a fox or coyote from carrying off a chicken.  The "Hun" on paws.

Weren't cheap or easy - but it were worth it! 
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sounds like your own piece of Nirvana!



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A square, honkytonk, thank you! I got six coats on today and the wood has darkened nicely.  By the end of next week it should be a real beauty, although I probably won't actually assemble it until the weekly coats are finished in late May.
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