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    Posted: March 20 2018 at 3:49am
Is there a trick to removing the butt stock?

Bit of a puzzler with one over on another board.

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Its a tight fit, but once the bolt is out it should just wiggle off with a little persuasion. There's something odd about that setup for sure the bolt is nowhere near long enough.
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If you're referring to the ATI synthetic stock for the No4, here is my two cents worth of advice. Before I put mine on,I first had to remove some material from around the the butt socket of the stock to get it to fit with minimal resistance. That being said,you will still have to smack the stock back and forth to get it to come loose after the stock bolt is removed.
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Goosic. I had to do the same when I installed one of those stocks on a buddy's rifle. When I first test fit it, it wouldn't even fit. I believe the majority of the material removed was at the bottom. Careful not to take to much off! Test fit lots! Don't want a wobble.
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Also, don't smack it with a regular hammer! I wrap a towel around the end and use a rubber dead blow or gently tap it on the work bench, first one side the the other. It'll come.
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The issue seems to be the screw that was removed. It is small and not very long. 

Is this the only Fastener? How does it function? What screws into the butt socket bass?
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There should be one long shafted screw, It normally passes through the length of the wood butt & bolts into the rear of the receiver's wrist (part # 58). Frequently you can see the other end from the front.
It almost looks like someone used a shorter bolt in a hollow synthetic stock then filled it in with something that's buried the original down there somewhere!

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Originally posted by englishman_ca englishman_ca wrote:

The issue seems to be the screw that was removed. It is small and not very long. 

Is this the only Fastener? How does it function? What screws into the butt socket bass?

I just looked at the photos. If they're not going to use that stock and the girl needs a shorter one,grab a saw and cut the stock a few inches behind the butt socket until you hit the bolt holding it in place. Someone filled that stock with Bondo,covering up the hole the bolt goes through to the butt socket. Give me a second and I'll post some pics of what it's supposed to look like.
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That's what it is supposed to look like, a big hollow hole. You can see where the bolt is supposed to go through...
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Inform those fellows to cut the stock here. They'll hit the bolt,if it's in there,and then keep cutting around it until the bolt is exposed.
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Must not have had the original flat head long bolt and just grabbed something with the right thread.
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Originally posted by Honkytonk Honkytonk wrote:

Must not have had the original flat head long bolt and just grabbed something with the right thread.

None of the above Honkytonk. This is the stock in question. It's been filled in with Bondo and more to the point,Bondo has been filled in over the bolt.
The guy is having an issue removing it. It's for a girl that is short and he wants to put a shorter stock on. I say cut it off,if he's not going to use it,and from the looks of the pictures, it's pretty much of no use anyways...
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Why they use a flat head is a mystery to me.  Perhaps the wedging effect on the butt tenon?  I would have used, back in the day,  a square or hex head machine screw.  Today I would be tempted to replace it with Torx head (Size 40).
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Filled with Bondo? Perhaps he felt synthetic had that "hollow" no personal feeling that wood has. As far as a flat head bolt, back in the day (100 or so years ago) until today, it worked! Still works. On a personal note, if I was to buy a modern rifle (which I probably won't, even realizing the benefits of synthetic stocks) I would pay the extra for wood. Something about sitting in the woods hunting with a wood stocked rifle. Even when it's cold outside, your hand on the wood feels warm. Not so with plastic. My $.02 worth...
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I just bought a Parker Hale Supreme stock set yesterday. It'll be to me in a week. Taking the synthetic stock off of mine and putting it back in the box.
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Nice!! I've installed a few of those synthetic stocks on Enfields for friends. They look nice, and totally funtional. And they are cheap and keep people shooting Enfields rather than trashing them. I wish Bishop/fajen still made those quality wood stocks. Man, you sporterize an Enfield in one of those, it's a thing of beauty!!
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