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    Posted: January 09 2019 at 10:02pm
The target shown here is a ten shot group and took 1 hour and 40 minutes to produce. Even with all the prep time and one shot for every ten minutes, I still produced one odd ball shot above the other nine shots. This is the best I can do at 100 yards with this rifle. Anything beyond that and the group starts to open up. Still good enough for me however. Definitely pissed a BR shooter off today.
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That is incredible!
Also pleased to hear that you pee'd off a bench rest shooter. There's nothing like the satisfaction of quietly out performing someone who's invested ton's of money in something. But doesn't know how to use it!

Like when I did a track day many years ago in my Caterham Super Seven; a client complained that there was something wrong with his Porsche 911 Turbo because he could not overtake me on the straight! My car had a 1700cc 4cyl pushrod Ford engine. What he didn't know was that it was fully modified to 170 HP and the car weighed only 580KG with fuel. The Porsche weighed 1300KG for 330 HP.

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Fantastic group, Goosic!
 
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 was that the old BDA engine in the ford?
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No unfortunately not. My mate had the BDA engined version, mine was an ex-hillclimb competition car; running a crossflow pushrod with 2x 48mm Weber carb's, forged piston's, steel rod's and dry sump lubrication, limited slip axle etc.

Apologies for going off topic Goosic!
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OMG!!!!   Awesome shooting!  When I took mine out the other day for the first time I was glad to just hit the darn target at 25 yards. Gives me hope for my rifle!   Good shooting.
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Thank you. I've been dialing this rifle in since I converted it from .303 to 7.62x51...
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Gossic, in my experience, this is as good as it gets with the No. 4 with a service weight barrel.  I spent nearly two years working this on my No. 4 with a 20x scope, trying to get the smallest 10 shot group possible.  Yours is right at 1 MOA center to center.  I also found that vertical fliers are more common than in the lateral (windage) direction.  It’s not you, it’s the barrel harmonics and gravity.

If you keep shooting, you will eventually get that rare occurring 10 shot sequence that didn’t produce a flier, I had a few of those when I did my .303 load development back in 2002/2003 with the 174 grain Sierra MatchKing, a sub-MOA group.  I posted a few of these target pictures on other threads.  It’s good to know that others have found the same results.  

A 1969 NRA article written by E.G.B Reynolds (author of “The Lee Enfield Rifle”, Technical Officer on the British Army Armaments HQ staff during the development of the No. 4 and member of the British National shooting team) on trials at Bisley with the No. 4 converted to 7.62 NATO with a 4 lb heavy target barrel.  With match grade ammunition, the average group size at 200 yards was 3.7 inches vertical and 3.1 inches lateral. That’s 1.5 to 1.8 MOA.  We can assume that the average center to center spread of the extreme shots are about 2 MOA.  This is prone shooting with a target apature sight.  With 7.62mm British Service ammunition, the groups were nearly twice that dimension.   



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