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    Posted: November 24 2020 at 8:26pm
Bear again I thank you for your help. My Serial # is 65028 J. I also have Statton's book and saw no figure for 1947. That's why I have been asking. Again thank you. 
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thanks bear - i knew that was there but i knew i could not access it anymore , 
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Okay, I looked up the production estimates in Stratton's book on the SMLE. For the period from 1946 to 1974 it lists Ishapore production of 345,000 Mk 3* rifles with the caveat that this is based on observed serial numbers. So, it could be higher.

Also of note is that there is a table in the book listing serial number prefix letters observed by year. It does not list anything for 1946 and 1947 but I would assume the letter would be J. 1945 is listed as J and 1948 is listed as J and K being observed.
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Thank you Mr Bear
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I forgot to look up the info in the book last night. I'll get myself a reminder and get on that.
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Thank Gents. Doing my research I did read a article that stated India was secretive anout production figures. Maybe some day we will find out.
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Originally posted by The Armourer The Armourer wrote:

Originally posted by Bear43 Bear43 wrote:

Production figures for Ishapore rifles are difficult to find at best. The Indians to this day are very, very secretive about arms production both past and present. Considering that RFI is still an active state manufacturer I highly doubt we will see true production numbers anytime soon.



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it is the best he is going to get - its the truth as it exists to date , not sure where stratton got his data and most agree its not complete but so far his was the most accurate/reliable we have available , 
i would think any attempt to sort through records might be complicated at best and with all the refurb work they did there could be mountains of records - if they kept/preserved them , 
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Originally posted by Bear43 Bear43 wrote:

Production figures for Ishapore rifles are difficult to find at best. The Indians to this day are very, very secretive about arms production both past and present. Considering that RFI is still an active state manufacturer I highly doubt we will see true production numbers anytime soon.



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Production figures for Ishapore rifles are difficult to find at best. The Indians to this day are very, very secretive about arms production both past and present. Considering that RFI is still an active state manufacturer I highly doubt we will see true production numbers anytime soon.

I will look up the numbers that Stratton lists in his book. As A_Square said, that is the best data set on Indian production to date.
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Thank you Sir. Still cant find any production figures for 1937. I was informed on another board the sling is a reproduction.
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A bit similar to walnut, but the heartwood is almost purple.
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Thanks Gents. what does coachwood look like?
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That is really nice wood! 
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Don’t think I’ve seen that wavy grain pattern thats on the forend before.  Butt stock does look like oak.  Nice shape too.  
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That's what I am thinking. But I understand they used other native hardwoods which I do not know what they look like. Thanks for the response.
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looks walnut to me but i could be wrong 

thats a bantam buttstock unless im seeing wrong , 
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