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hoadie 
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 Topic: Head spacePosted: February 27 2007 at 11:01am |
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The Bolt Tool looks just like the Sergeant's tool, used in Civil War stuff.Damn-I lent mine out & didn't get it back. Sargents tools are readily available fer 5 or 10 bucks
I'll hafta get some dimensions on 'em Hoadie |
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Posted: February 27 2007 at 9:44am |
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Puts his Helmut & Flack Vest on ............Now I can see where the Chap writing that artical is comming from ......BUT! Whilst I have never bothered with Head Space on a MK111 (a I've always felt it was out of my control ) With Mk4 s where it was within my control I've alway been a stickler for checking the head space ! Yes I know that Enfields have large chambers ect ,but I like the thought of being in control of what's going on in a rifle that I'm going to fire ,esp as I reload !
Hey! CJ no need to appologize ! The ida ofthis forum is to share info like this & throw it in to the pit to be kicked around & pulled to pieces & put back together again ! We all learn from things like this ! More Power to you for doing it ! Dave |
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Posted: February 27 2007 at 5:40am |
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Ranger- My bad and I stand corrected. And I didn't mean to give credit to Hoadie for the post, I just say the grizzly bear and thought it was him! I will also be interested in what the masters say! taking me awhile to get this forum!
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Posted: February 27 2007 at 4:41am |
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CJRock-
Just for the record I was not endorsing the article, I was just asking the experts of this forum if the article was valid and right on. It made me feel more comfortable if I decide not to have my headspace checked before I fire it. Let's hear what the experts say after reading it
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Posted: February 27 2007 at 12:42am |
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Thanks hoadie for that link, it does make a lot of sense. Like I said I found that graphic on this forum, but is looks like it originated on that post. And the additional information is comforting. I was tending to belive that anyway with my rifle because I was so close to the .070. So I now will buy some ammo and try it out this weekend. I have a longer bolt head in the mail to me I will also try.
I have a stubborn screw I will have to drill out on the underside of the forearm to remove the wood. I am currently looking for new wood for it so I can restore it back to original condition. Thanks all, whoever said this was addicting will you sponsor me in a enfield's anonymous club? |
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 1:13pm |
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Too bad it was done with a different rifle...
I've checked at Numrich and on Ebay, and may just buy a bolt body and swap. I would like to make sure it is still a Savage made, however. At least keep that consistant. I may still call customer service at Century, first. They have been helpful in the past. What the heck, no harm in asking.
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Ed Hill
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 9:37am |
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Nomad660, someone at some time probably matched the bolthead to the bolt, which is why it fits. If it won't go at least vertical, it's a bear to even get the bolt in the rifle.
Allan, closer to .067 is better than larger on the headspace. I think the writer was trying to say that the Enfield is designed to be safe in these circumstances, and Probably nothing bad will happen. In the example show, if a #3 bolthead or a new bolt wouldn't fix it I'd make it a wall hanger. ED |
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 8:01am |
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he has certainly a convincing point, even went to the trouble of being excessive with round to prove a point, but ive never heard any one say relax and enjoy whilst shooting a rifle with excessive headspace , thats the first time ive ever heard someone say dont worry about it. ill wait to hear what the experienced guys on here have to say.
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 7:14am |
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I found this post on a the surplus rifle forum and was wondering if TK's post was on target or not. It sounds pretty convincing to me. I still have yet to fire my new (as of Christmas) No.4 Mk. 1*. I find myself going back and forth as to weather or not I am going to have the headspace checked or not, then I found this post. Now I think I am just going to fire at will (as I am not a reloader as of yet and all the ammo I will be firing are new factory loads Remington etc). I got it for $ 135- US and don't want to put more money into it if I don't really need to. I respect ya'alls opinions and would like to know what you think as I am green in this area.
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 6:55am |
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wow..that tool looks awesome,saves alot of money making that yourself instead of buying one.
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 3:21am |
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Great Work CJ I reckon that's the best example we've had yet it really simplifies the whole thing ! Good work Mate
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 3:06am |
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I found this old graphic to help explain. I found it on this site, so
its a repost, but I thought it was worth viewing again for those that
are learning about headspace.
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 1:56am |
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Yes now only if I could make one i would be doing great!
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Posted: February 26 2007 at 1:12am |
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Outstanding! Thankyou to Both ED & CJ for that info !
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Posted: February 25 2007 at 10:14pm |
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Here are the images Ed Sent me, Sorry for the delay, I was out this weekend.
This will help you make a Bolt Tool out of a 6mm 1/4 inch drive socket.   |
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Posted: February 25 2007 at 4:23pm |
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Yeah puting it simpley The #1 Mk111 had one size Bolt head . When they redesigned the Mk4 they allowed for bold head replacement for wear & tear (hense the different sizes ) This made the Amourers life somewhat easier . Be it BSA ,Savage or Ishie the bolt heads were interchangeable !
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