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    Posted: May 23 2018 at 10:58am
Yes however the first ones the Greeks received were the mark 1’s later in the war they were equipped with Mark 4’s. The majority of these weapons were supplied to the Greeks from the British to fight the communists during the Civil War between 1944 and 1949 . Where after they were used as training rifle’s .
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The markings are still a little bit of a mystery to me!

Wikipedia says that the he!!enic army used Enfields in world war 2 after 1942
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kool - between you and SW im learning new stuff from this thread 
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I research has shown that it could most likely mean
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he!!o Rick I’ve sent you a message!
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Rik, I got the pictures you e-mailed. Thank you very much for those!
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Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

im looking at the markings , it apears the EK/S is a diferent stamp than the EOS , perhaps two seperate markings ? i am by no means saying it is so , but it apears they might be two seperate markings - different stamps - different strikings 

just a thought , i got nothing at hand to back that up , ill have to dig a bit in my records to see if i can find anything on the markings , 


Maybe you are right, the ek/s part is much deeper stamped. I haven't looked at it that way before!

Here are some pictures of the other broadarrows
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"EK"  in  Greek  signifies separation   "EOS"  is a bit tricky  it can mean something like existence or being. Perhaps  "Out of Service" might be a good translation.   I studied Classical Geek so take my translation with a grain (or more) of salt
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im looking at the markings , it apears the EK/S is a diferent stamp than the EOS , perhaps two seperate markings ? i am by no means saying it is so , but it apears they might be two seperate markings - different stamps - different strikings 

just a thought , i got nothing at hand to back that up , ill have to dig a bit in my records to see if i can find anything on the markings , 
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Oh yes, Goosic, by all means you did the right thing. I am just so used to seeing rifles from Netherlands that have been deactivated that I paid it no mind. That attitude was not the right one. I sometimes have to remind myself: Never assume.

Rik, I am trying to compile a book on Maltby rifles and your pictures are fantastic! The pic of the left front body is very nice. That is the clearest inspector stamp I have seen on a Maltby rifle so far. If it is okay with you I would like to save these pictures and use them in the future with all credit going to you, of course. Please let me know if that is acceptable. Also, if you would like your actual name to be attributed to the pictures then please PM me with that info and it will be noted.
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i have a friend in the netherlands that shoots his - do not ever assume anything , you did ythe right thing , that would have been a catastrophy waiting to happen here , we need no more fuel on the antigun sentiments here , 
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

If it was ever accepted into British Military service it would have the "Royal Cypher" (crown & monarch'd initials). It might have been sold direct from the factory to the Greek government though in which case it may have never been in British service.
I miss the "2 broad arrows" in the pictures, but there are several possible explanations for them.
1. Its possible the rifle was re-barreled with an ex military barrel which would have had broad arrow acceptance marks. Does the barrel's serial number match the receivers?
2. look carefully at the "2 arrows" might it be a six pointed star? If so a pair of broad arrows stamped with points touching (or close) is a "sold out of service" (released from military to civilian sale) marking.


The serial number on the barrel matches the one on the receiver. And the barrel has two broadarrows on it and also on the left side of the receiver(no picture)

Above there is also a post from me which was late approved.
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If it was ever accepted into British Military service it would have the "Royal Cypher" (crown & monarch'd initials). It might have been sold direct from the factory to the Greek government though in which case it may have never been in British service.
I miss the "2 broad arrows" in the pictures, but there are several possible explanations for them.
1. Its possible the rifle was re-barreled with an ex military barrel which would have had broad arrow acceptance marks. Does the barrel's serial number match the receivers?
2. look carefully at the "2 arrows" might it be a six pointed star? If so a pair of broad arrows stamped with points touching (or close) is a "sold out of service" (released from military to civilian sale) marking.
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I didn't know that about the Netherlands
I learned something today.
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I noticed he was from the Netherlands so I had assumed it was a deact.
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Rik forgot to mention that the rifle was deactivated before posting the pictures and I kinda almost pooped myself when I saw the filled in holes. All better now.
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