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    Posted: September 08 2019 at 4:13pm
Originally posted by Bear43 Bear43 wrote:

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bear , your optimism has proved wise , i appreciate that about you and your powers of observation , this one is an interesting study , i have nothing more to contribute at this point but who knows what we may all learn here , 
thanks for keeping our eyes open - it is the way to travel life , as well as to travel this journey into enfield rifles that is a never ending learning experience , 

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I always try to be optimistic on these ol' gals. Part of my powers of observation has been dealing with these Maltby's. Lord those are rough markings. In the end we all work together to decipher these things. I know you have taught me a lot over the years and I just do my best to pass it along.
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agree there , the maltbys are rough ones , good that your young and can do this study , we need a good reference manual on those , 
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Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

bear , your optimism has proved wise , i appreciate that about you and your powers of observation , this one is an interesting study , i have nothing more to contribute at this point but who knows what we may all learn here , 
thanks for keeping our eyes open - it is the way to travel life , as well as to travel this journey into enfield rifles that is a never ending learning experience , 


I always try to be optimistic on these ol' gals. Part of my powers of observation has been dealing with these Maltby's. Lord those are rough markings. In the end we all work together to decipher these things. I know you have taught me a lot over the years and I just do my best to pass it along.
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I like the idea of making it into a lamp.
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bear , your optimism has proved wise , i appreciate that about you and your powers of observation , this one is an interesting study , i have nothing more to contribute at this point but who knows what we may all learn here , 

thanks for keeping our eyes open - it is the way to travel life , as well as to travel this journey into enfield rifles that is a never ending learning experience , 
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I agree I just had it looked at by a gun smith who is very knowledgeable on Lee's. He said it definitely is no4 mk1 that was sporterized at one point. Rear sight lugs milled off and barrel cut. And a redfeild sight installed. I think this project just turned into a lamp. It will make a great lamp for the gun room. Thanks for all yalls help.
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Looking at the overall condition from the photos; I don't think it would make a great project. 
You'd be better off spending your hard earned cash on a good condition No4Mk1 with matching numbers and a good bore. 
Once you've got the Enfield bug (you will get it if you buy one!) look for an interesting project that's worthwhile.
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I figure it had been modified at some point. I picked it up for free and thought it would be a good project to play with. But I dont know anything about these rifles and was looking for any info that would help. Thanks again yall
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Lol. Good eyes Bear!
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I would say someone's unfinished project as well. The charger bridge is gone.
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yes it has been stripped. It was solid rust when I got it. But here are a couple more pics 
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BNP is the Birmingham Nitro Proof marking that was introduced in 1954.

Somewhere marked with these proofs will be a tiny symbol of crossed flags with letters. I dont see it. This can give us the year in which the proofs were applied.

Just looking at the detail and machining, my gut tells me that this is a Brit made rifle not Dara.

If the rifle was configured at some time and used as a sporter, I would expect to see some blue or finish underneath the wood line of even a sporter front end. My thinking is that this barreled action has been sand blasted or caustic soda soaked to produce that overall stripped look.

Somebody's unfinished project?
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Its definitely a rifle that has been sporterized at one time.  Can you post a picture of the flat side of the receiver please.
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