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    Posted: February 18 2014 at 1:47pm
I recently acquired this gun, i know its an Enfield by the markings and i know the stock has been changed out, but still having some issues with figuring out what actual type it is for sure.  Any assistance would be EXCELLENT!
From the markings i can make out it says  GR B 1942 SHT LE III * F.I.R.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2014 at 5:03am
It appears to be a sporterized Lee Enfield  (SMLE) No1 MkIII* 
"GR" is for George Rex with the crown symbol above. "Sht LE" is for Short Magazine Lee Enfield.
Is it possible the "F.I.R." could be FTR ? which would be Factory Through Repair. I'm sure others on the forum who are far more knowledgeable than I will be able to give more info on maker etc; and correct me if I have made an error Ermm

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Zed got it for you. A little more is that it is a BSA rifle manufactured in 1942...... whoa.... There's an issue here in looking at the pictures. Serial number on the barrel matches receiver but barrel is dated 1918 on a 1942 dated receiver? That is a bit concerning.
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im thinking a mixmaster of parts , the B on the socket suggests 'BSA Co' as the mfgr , but as they are really scrubbed looking im not sure of anything here , except that BSA was the last rmkIII/III* mfgr in that time period in england , oh , and its been sported , 
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So basically its a Hodgepodge gun that is relatively worthless or not?
Also upon closer inspection it looks like it does say F.T.R.  I originally thought it was F.I.R. but i can make out what looks to be the top of the T.
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Your rifle originally was like the one on top
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It is a 1918 BSA, FTR'd in 1942.  The barrel must have been +80% to remain unchanged.
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It doesn't look like it has a magazine, either.(Unless its a 5 round)
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I have the magazine for it as well, just did not have it in when i took the pictures.
So would it be worth it to put it back onto original stock? And also is it hard to do or if i go that route should i find a gunsmith?  because looking at a lot these guns, the front sight post and muzzle look a lot different.  
I got it because i collect anything and everything from WWII usually military items, i have a good collection going but saw this and picked it up to go with my collection.
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If the barrel has not been cut, and yours does not look to have been, they are easy to restore.

The major parts dealers: Numrich, Springfield Sporter's and Liberty Tree Collectors should have what you need.  Here is a link to a schematic:
 
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"...relatively worthless..."     NO , i would not say that , if its restored  it will be a nice representation of the 42 FTR mkIII* , and if it shoots well it will be a shooter too , even as it is , and from what muffet posted and a re-look on my part i was wrong about the 'mixmaster label' , i see it is a matching 1918 dated receiver/barrel , 
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The 1942 FTR would explain why the serials match on receiver and barrel and why the 42 is struck so much deeper than the rest of the marks. I didn't know they stamped over the original date at some point. I am used to seeing the FTR year below the other markings or on the other side in some cases.
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me too , that was my confliction ....
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Looking for year of production please.
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Couldn't be plainer
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