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P14?
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that would be my guess as well as the buttrap of the M17 was set up fpor the US oiler that looks to be about the same as that longer one - ill one day dig out both of mine and re-photo , 
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I'm not so sure.
The P-14 6" oiler was double-ended! Is this one double ended?
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the US oiler was capped on both ends but i did not think the comonwealth version was neccessarily so - they did not use the US oiler did they ? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote terrylee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2019 at 12:13am
I think that you chaps are on the right track concerning M17/P14 usage. Thanks, but this raises several issues: 

The but-traps of both these rifles are of similar lengths as the SMLE etc and obviously designed to accommodate both oiler and pull-thoough. Separate in the P14 and in one container in the M17. This oiler only opens at one end with a normal sized spoon attached to its stopper. In effect greatly increased oil capacity but nothing else. 

I also note that it bears the BSA logo but no military markings.  I just don't see where it fits in!
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Made by BSA for commercial sale?
I wonder if the commercial BSA's that weren't SMLE's had a butt trap? Might it be for a Lee Speed or other commercial model?
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This is a BSA made Lee Speed and is not an SMLE, it has a butt trap of a slightly larger diameter than that of a service arm.


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Is it 6" or more deep? That might be the missing clue!
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Seven inches deep
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The mystery oiler compared with one from an M17. The length is similar but nothing else

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I really have no clue about that oiler; but just thinking maybe it's for something different, such as a Boyes Anti tank rifle or a Bren.
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Terry,
 
I had the long double -ended one like yours, but think I left it in a rifle I sold!
 
Was nickeled or chromed.  Would fit in any normal L-E I had...
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i left all of mine in the US rifles i sold and yes all had the correct kit , i need to dig out my P14 & M17 to refresh my memory as ive not had either out in such intiment fashion in years , now im interested further , need to dig out the bibble me thinks , 
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