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edteach ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: August 14 2023 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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I wanted a bayonet to go with my SMLE. Mine is marked broad head arrow in a D. I believe that is an Australian mark. Not sure if I should go for an Australian version or just a m1907. What do these go for? I heard that there are some rare ones that are worth more. From what I have seen on eBay they sell for around 100 dollars give or take a bit. Thanks for any guidance.
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Sapper740 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2021 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 192 |
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Yes, the broad arrow in a D was used to denote Australian ownership from around 1910 up to WWII. You didn't mention if you have a scabbard. A quick perusal of ebay shows bayonets with scabbards have asking prices of between $229 and $285.
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paddyofurniture ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 26 2011 Location: NC Status: Offline Points: 4643 |
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You can try local gun shows.
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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
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Goosic ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 12 2017 Location: Phoenix Arizona Status: Offline Points: 8152 |
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Buy a bayonet on-line, and secure it to the rifle and then stab stuff. That is the only safe way to use that SMLE IMHO...
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Shamu ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 16508 |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Shamu ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 16508 |
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Let me help you out a bit. ![]() In Service, bayonets were never "matched", you had "rifle "A", They had a bayonet "B" from Gawd knows where, but it is the right fitting for Rifle "A". They loaned it to you. (U.K. squaddies never "owned a Rifle", it was generously loaned to you by Her Britannic Majesty, so you could Defend The Realm as a Duty"), something your NCO would pointedly remind you of if you messed up with one somehow! Trust me I wuz one of They. ![]() This makes your life much easier because you can have any Pat 1907 bayo & its perfectly "correct"! The ones retaining the "hookie" are worth much more because HM.GOV in it infinite wisdom took tens of thousands of them & ground it off. Survivors are rare & so expensive. If its a Pat '07 & there's no Hook, go for it! If you really want to create a period rifle (nothing wrong with that) The SMELLIE was in service for many decades, you just need to pick one & stick with it. If its a MkIII, or a MK III* would limit you a little though. |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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A square 10 ![]() Special Member ![]() ![]() Donating Member Joined: December 12 2006 Location: MN , USA Status: Offline Points: 13696 |
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as shamu said it was a supply chain thing - if it was in supply they issued it and they might have come from anywhere in the realm that was producing them , you actually can attach any P1907 and actually any P1903 as well but the 03 is the short one that was for the earlier rifles pre SMLE era ,
if , on the other hand you like things matched you can look for an ausie marked version - this limits you a lot in what you might easily find in affordable range , these will often be of WWII vintage tho in my experience here in the states , if you like to date match the rifle and accessories - very unlikely occured in supply chain , you limit yourself even more but its a fun search , in this case you can go by era - a very early rifle would need one without the clearing hole later rifles would want one with that added or manufactured that way , details , bayonet collectors would notice , then there are those that need a specific maker and that really limits your search but it can be very fun as well , there are some eras when bayo production does not match rifle production tho , i have a hookie - 1910 mole mfgr and will attest to they being the expensive vavarient of these - expect to pay ten fold for a real one - warning there are fakes out there [ https://www.by-the-sword.com/p-12489-british-1907-smle-no1-mkiii-bayonet-sheath.aspx?gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwo9unBhBTEiwAipC111uHqcyXbKnmKGbB9vnANKETu4lQ26kjJD4IbvchC4MYP60r ] - and they would only be period correct to WWI and before as the removal order was 1915 IIRC without looking it up , id not part with mine ....well over $1500 to consider it as id never find anther in my lifetime and i have a mkIII it lives with these days , but ive digressed ......you can find the bayos in that $110+ range bot mostly without scabbard as mentioned above , expect to pay more for the set - condition will always drive the price , one dealer i trus is - https://oldguns.net/catedw.php isnt listing one at the moment but ask - john might have one not listed on his page - he gets things in all the time and takes time to get them up on the site , he always treated me well , WARNING - the pattern 1914/model 1817 will not fit your rifle they are for the pattern 1913/14 [no3] and model 1917 rifles and trench shotguns , they look the same but have two cross cuts in the grip scales to differentiate at a glance , |
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Goosic ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 12 2017 Location: Phoenix Arizona Status: Offline Points: 8152 |
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It would be date matched to that SMLE of yours...
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Shamu ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 16508 |
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Is the rifle a Lithy? If so then probably as I don't see many Brit made ones gong to "Down Undah"?
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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edteach ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: August 14 2023 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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It seems they are running around 170 to 200 give or take. I guess I will keep an eye out on eBay.
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edteach ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: August 14 2023 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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I ended up buying this one. A wilkinson. Seems to be in nice condition.
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edteach ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: August 14 2023 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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A square 10 ![]() Special Member ![]() ![]() Donating Member Joined: December 12 2006 Location: MN , USA Status: Offline Points: 13696 |
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thats a keeper - very nice condition , congrats
later WWI with the clearing hole added , nice original scabbard - if im seeing correctly it has the earlier almond shaped stud for the frog , the later ones were round buttons , does nit appear to have been sharpened - thats great - and the finish looks good as well , wilkinnson made a lot of them but they mage very nice ones , you did well , the grip scales are in excellent condition and do not appear to be replacements , keep a littly light oil on the push button stud , that assembly is prone to getting a little sticky , for what its worth my mkIII is a brit BSA made rifle in 1915 , but its also marked to the ausie 3MD so it served in both world wars and its home guard service in OZ might have been its last service but the hookie looks right on the rfle to me as it probably was issued with one , i think you did the right thing seeking out what you found for it as the D-arrow would not have dictated the bayonet issue , that would have depended on what was in stores and some of those might well have had blood on them from previous service , everything got reused once deemed serviceable ,
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edteach ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: August 14 2023 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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Is this Wilkinson related to the company that made the crossed sword shaving double edge razors?
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A square 10 ![]() Special Member ![]() ![]() Donating Member Joined: December 12 2006 Location: MN , USA Status: Offline Points: 13696 |
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yes , and yes they made swords too
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Goosic ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 12 2017 Location: Phoenix Arizona Status: Offline Points: 8152 |
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