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    Posted: September 30 2022 at 5:26am
As stated in my other post I have parts on the way from Prestigious, Numrich and a couple UK vendors.

 Upper hand guard arrived and has been fitted, nose cap and spring clip attached and is currently drinking lots of linseed oil, it`ll take a lot to get it to the same state as the rest of the rifle.

Next to arrive will be a nose cap and forward guard band from Numrich. The replacement nose cap will have the bayonet boss, lug and swivel mount removed, as this being a target rifle build there`s no need for such accoutrements.

Seems like a lot of work just to mount a target sight....LOL,  I`m retired with nothing better to do.

I will post pics as this progresses.
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Cool. Have any pics of what you are starting with?

I got top wood for my Savage No4 Mk1* on ebay, both of them nice actually. My forearm came from Liberty Tree Collectors. NOS and really nice. Just needs some oil rubbed in.

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I started with my 1915 enfield lock  NoI MkIII (no star) was rebarreled in 1937, has sold out of service marks but no ftr. this rifle still had its volley`s and cut off. Peep sight was my best bet to get some use out of it, I like shooting my guns and the WWWI battle sights on these are not conducive to my eyes, peeps are much better, scopes best. So when finished will resemble a NoI MkV 1920`s trials rifle.
Should also note this rifle has Non scrubbed New Zealand ownership marks along with a second serial number, the rifle is all matching. Like NZ got the rifle then put there own serial number
on it without striking out the original?


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Wow! That's pretty nice as it is. I can fully understand about the sights though. My old eyes shoot much better looking through peeps.
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nice looking rifle but im confused by your OP , you reference a mkV in that what am i missing here ? 
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Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

nice looking rifle but im confused by your OP , you reference a mkV in that what am i missing here ? 


I`m using a reproduction No1 MkV trials rifle upper hand guard to clean up the peep sights line of sight. It is a one piece as opposed to the 2 piece SMLE hand guards.
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Good hack!
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thats rather interesting , the mkIII has a rear sight that interferes with the mkV handguard as it was receiver mounted , what are you doing about that ? are you using a target rear sight ? 
there were a lot of developments happening in the mkIII*- mkV- no4 transition i would never assume that would be compatible , but then ive never really tried it so ...........good luck , 
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[QUOTE=A square 10]thats rather interesting , the mkIII has a rear sight that interferes with the mkV handguard as it was receiver mounted , what are you doing about that ? are you using a target rear sight ? 
there were a lot of developments happening in the mkIII*- mkV- no4 transition i would never assume that would be compatible , but then ive never really tried it so ...........good luck , 
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Here, let me clear this up for you

1. I`m mounting a target peep sight to my No1 mk3. ( Central Bisley Model )

2. I don`t like seeing the rear sight while looking through the peep sight.

3. I`m eliminating the no1 mk3 rear sight. (the rear sights, sight protectors have been removed)

4. Replacing the No1 mk3 hand guard(s) with a No1 Mk5 trials hand guard.

For those who may be interested the trials 1 piece upper hand guard fits on a No1 mk3, WWWI rifles, dont know about WWWII made rifles as I don`t own one. It(the hand guard) still uses the rear spring clip and a second band at the rear of the nose cap where the stacking swivel goes.
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I like the idea.
I wonder if that's what those scarce Match modded No1's were at Bisley?
I always assumed it was some custom rig, but maybe it was that simple!
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The mounting screws for the central sight arrived today. Here`s a picture, still waiting for the additional band and nose cap, but this shows basically what it`ll look like.


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I like it.
if you're gong to have a spare nose cap why not go the whole hog & put a target front site (globe) on it too?

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I like that setup. Looks right proper...
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That looks really nice. Sleek!
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

I like it.
if you're gong to have a spare nose cap why not go the whole hog & put a target front site (globe) on it too?
 


I like that idea, have been looking, havn`t seen any that work with the No1 sight block so far.

I`ll shoot it as is first and see how I do with the front blade sight.

I have rear aperture and front globe sight on one of my old .22 target rifles, and I do very well with it.

 A Parker Hale Model 2 tunnel foresight be the one, it works with the front sight block, scarce as hens teeth, I`ve found an couple, but no inserts, and pricey beyond my budget.
 Circa 1930`s
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