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Posted: April 25 2022 at 8:13am |
Thinking about buying this AIA M10 rifle in .308
does anyone have experience with this rifle? Is it a good shooter?
please share your experience.
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Posted: April 25 2022 at 8:36am |
Be advised. This is NOT a Lee Enfield, Its a Vietnamese (IIRC) clone of it with almost zero interchangeable parts. It just looks like a no4. They are actually prohibited in the U.S. because of the nation of origin. Here's a detailed test review on them.
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Posted: April 25 2022 at 9:50am |
 Shamu wrote:
Be advised. This is NOT a Lee Enfield, Its a Vietnamese (IIRC) clone of it with almost zero interchangeable parts. It just looks like a no4. They are actually prohibited in the U.S. because of the nation of origin. Here's a detailed test review on them. |
How can you be so sure it is an Vietnamese clone? i know the controversy that not all AIA M10 were build in Australia but some were cloned in Vietnam and sold as.
but please tell me how you can see the difference. besides that, i dont live in the US. so i do not have those weird prohibition laws.
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Posted: April 25 2022 at 10:04am |
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You have a very impressive Enfield collection. I'm not sure this would compliment it. It was an interesting idea and I almost bought one when they first came out but they were $$$$. I could and did buy a nice full wood No4 and No5 for the same price at the same Gun Show. But, as always, if you like it, buy it!
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Posted: April 25 2022 at 10:25am |
My point is that we do so our knowledge is limited. I believe the wood was sourced from N. Vietnam, all of it, & that's why there was a ban. I know of no way to tell which was which, like I said we can't get them so any knowledge we have is second hand. The other point was that ALL of them, no matter where made are dimensionaly different from legitimate Lee Enfield rifles. Because of that almost no parts or accessories are available that will fit them. Here's a review from elsewhere.
I'm not trying to put it down, but you did ask for information & that's what this is, I'm sorry if its not what you wanted to hear.
" Excerpt from a Canadian government document concerning the military's Small
Arms Replacement Project II (SARP 2):
13.
A company based in Australia,
Australian International Arms (AIA), markets a M10 No.4 Mk IV Modern
Short Magazine Lee Enfield
(SMLE) Rifle in 7.62mm NATO
calibre. This rifle is a replica of the Lee Enfield but in appearance
only. The cost of this
rifle, less ancillaries is
approximately $800.00 (Cdn). The CF technical
authority for small arms,
DSSPM 5, on 24 Jul 08 conducted an
initial examination of the AIA rifle because in appearance it closely
resembles the current
Lee Enfield. The technical authority
concluded that the rifle would not meet the Canadian Ranger’s
requirement without
significant modification and
re-engineering because it is cheaply made.
14. The Australian International Arms M10 No 4 Mk IV SMLE Rifle fires a 7.62 x 51mm NATO cartridge
and at first glance appears to meet the CF requirement as a replacement for the Canadian Ranger Rifle. The rifle is assembled from parts manufactured from throughout South-East Asia in locations such as as Viet Nam,
Thailand (teak stocks) and Indonesia.
The barrel is hammer-forged in Australia. The general assessment
is that the rifle is accurate and
attractively priced, but it was clearly designed for the civilian
recreational shooting
market and it is not a military
product. Many parts of the rifle are cheaply made
and would likely fail under testing."
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Posted: April 25 2022 at 10:53am |
well, now you are giving information that i can use. Thank you.
I just don't need and really don't want any US or Canadian law lesson.
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Posted: April 25 2022 at 11:23am |
Contact Marstar.ca
They were a distributor of those FrankenEnfields at one time and should have all the information you desire...
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Posted: April 25 2022 at 11:30am |
jhonelver wrote:
well, now you are giving information that i can use.Thank you.
I just don't need and really don't want any US or Canadian law lesson.
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jhonelver: When you ask for information about a rifle on this site, expect answers that include any and all information pertinent to that rifle and take from it what you can, leaving the rest alone. It is a much more adult way of conducting oneself...
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Posted: April 25 2022 at 11:56am |
Goosic wrote:
jhonelver wrote:
well, now you are giving information that i can use.Thank you.
I just don't need and really don't want any US or Canadian law lesson.
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jhonelver: When you ask for information about a rifle on this site, expect answers that include any and all information pertinent to that rifle and take from it what you can, leaving the rest alone. It is a much more adult way of conducting oneself... |
You are right, my apologies.
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Posted: February 17 2026 at 8:14am |
There is still another memory... .
Let's search it as first..
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Posted: February 17 2026 at 1:15pm |
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this is a really old thread - im not sure how much is currentlyrelavant save what shamu noted , i will note that i dont understand the canadians refering to it as an SMLE in both point 13 &14 as the no4 style rifle was not an SMLE
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Posted: February 17 2026 at 2:19pm |
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I saw one of these rifles in a gun store in Florida a few years ago.
It was big money per the price tag and I did not even look at it.
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Posted: February 18 2026 at 12:38am |
A square 10 wrote:
this is a really old thread - im not sure how much is currentlyrelavant save what shamu noted , i will note that i dont understand the canadians refering to it as an SMLE in both point 13 &14 as the no4 style rifle was not an SMLE |
One small correction A square, Canadians involved in collecting and shooting milsurps, especially the Lee Enfield family of rifles are quite knowledgeable about them, it's the Canadian government that is profoundly ignorant of firearms, y'know the people who profess to know what's best for us.
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Posted: February 18 2026 at 10:21am |
The thing is, the Australian International Arms (AIA), isn't really a Lee-Enfield, or any other sort of Enfield! It's a poor monkey-see, monkey-do copy made in Vietnam. There's not on single part, not even a single screw, that interchanges with any real on ever made in any version. Its just a lookalike.
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good point sapper , i should have been more specific ,
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Posted: February 25 2026 at 6:36am |
I wouldn't "condemn the AIA"-Enfields" across the board", Shamu. A little research reveals quite a host of positive feedback. Please see: AIA No 4 Mk 4 Reviews? | Canadian Gun Nutz :
And not to forget this tests, made by well-known people, see: aia I would also consider this information in the situation of the thread-starter, resp. others. And possibly even more.. Frome time to time a rarity can appear, suddenly, somewhere. Having too much optimism for the demand in the US is not a construction mistake.
Hey Gang,
Hopefully this is in the right section, if not, feel free to move it accordingly.
I am looking for some first hand knowledge of the Australian International No 4 Mk 4 (and/or the other 3 models as well) Lee Enfield copy.
I have read/heard ALOT of mixed reviews but the reviews are from several years ago. I just got off the phone with marstar who were no help about the rifle or company...(maybe my questions weren't specific enough?) The company, AIA, has no website, and marstar would not pass along the Australian phone number...what's to hide? Talking to Steve (303British) he says to stay away, and I really want too, but the look of yesteryears rifle with the technology of today is hard for to pass up...
Does anyone have any CURRENT, first hand knowledge/uses one of these? I like mine
I bought the Mk 4 from Marstar a few years ago and really enjoy it. I have put a few hundred rounds through it and not had an issue. The wood and metal are nice. I have heard complaints about the trigger but mine is nice. I would be interested in why people say to stay away. Easy to mount a scope, I added a check rest as the optics area little high. I would say buy with confidence.
I have heard that the company has gone out of business, perhaps that is why there is no contact info. I know mine is never leaving. Talking to Steve (303British) he says to stay away,
Don't believe anything he tells you at all. He's bent he didn't get a free rifle to review and posts are resentful and angry = no credibility IMHO... They are very well made, No complaints. Easy to maintain. Wood is well finished, no flaws and solid. Some nice features around the trigger guard. Metal is parked very evenly, Smooth bolt and feels like a Lee Enfield albeit an updated LE or Lee action'd rifle. Shoots well with surplus ammo approx 1 1/2" at 100m, I need to reload for it to tweek the load to under MOA. Added a repro No4Mk1(T) cheek rest and it looks great. Very happy The only person who has ever had a single bad word to say about AIA and their rifles is the gentleman you mentioned. Pblatz explained it very well.
Sour grapes with no basis in fact.
Everyone who actually owns them considers them a high quality, excellent rifle.
The only thing missing is history. They aren't veterans of WWII. Depending on how important that is to you... Don't believe anything he tells you at all. He's bent he didn't get a free rifle to review and posts are resentful and angry = no credibility IMHO...
They are very well made, No complaints. Easy to maintain. Wood is well finished, no flaws and solid. Some nice features around the trigger guard.
Metal is parked very evenly, Smooth bolt and feels like a Lee Enfield albeit an updated LE or Lee action'd rifle.
Shoots well with surplus ammo approx 1 1/2" at 100m, I need to reload for it to tweek the load to under MOA. Added a repro No4Mk1(T) cheek rest and it looks great.
Very happy
I too have read Steve's reviews about the AIA rifles and wonder what his problem is. I have both the No4 and the B2 heavy barrel models and am VERY pleased with their fit and finish. They are beautiful rifles. The previous owner of the B2 is a member of this board and he told me that he was able to shoot touching groups at 200 yards. They are at least as well made as any No4T I have ever owned. Steve talks about how competitive shooters don't use chrome lined barrels and that they aren't accurate. I'll let the people who have actually shot theirs comment on that. Jim. I don't own one but every single guy I've met or talked to that had one, is proud to own it and loves it. Have shot and handled a few and was quite impressed with the fit and finish, the function, and the results down range.
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