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Honkytonk
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Posted: February 25 2026 at 7:41am |
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This thread brings back memories. I havent seen any posts from that jhonlever fellow for a long time. If memory serves me, he had quite a collection of museum quality Enfields.
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Shamu
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Posted: February 25 2026 at 11:20am |
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I wasn't condemning it. as it stands its a decent rifle. I was just clarifying its status as a "Lee-Enfield" for those unfamiliar with it.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: February 25 2026 at 3:12pm |
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this rifle belongs in the "other" catagory with the faux rifles built by the importers gibbs , bannerman , etc that modified and renamed back in the day but dont show up anymore
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Posted: March 11 2026 at 7:17am |
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The thing is, the Australian
International Arms (AIA), isn't really a Lee-Enfield, or any other sort of
Enfield! It's a poor monkey-see, monkey-do copy made in Vietnam: Well, that does not sound really
flattering, to me, Shamu. There's hardly anything positive.. It is precisely because the versatility of
this Enfield No. 4 impresses so many people that it has been revived so many
years after the original production was discontinued. This is a great compliment to the original design, not ? Largely replicated, partially
improved, updated. Yes, the interchangeability of most parts is missing, as authenticity and history – unfortunately for some – but for others this is less
important. Or even irrelevant... The mere appearance of such a new edition
already arouses curiosity.. Added to this is another positive test report. One that is probably not so well known outside the German-speaking world. That's what I meant with my first post above. Therefore I try to summarise the essentials here, considering copyright. This test appeared in the VISIER 11/2005, page 27-31. By using only a few
keywords: Appearance: At first
glance, the AIA No.4 Mk4 Classic rifle looks like a new British No.4 Mk I
Enfield. And the AIA M10 A-1 Jungle carbine looks almost like a legendary No.5
Mk I Jungle carbine. However, there are some differences in the rifles, which
are completely remanufactured by AIA in Brisbane. The light grey phosphating of
all metal parts, the very quick barrel change thanks to a patented Savage
barrel change system. Well-crafted, light teak wood for the stocks. All parts are
said to have been milled from solid blocks. In terms of workmanship, the two
test rifles deserve a ‘very good’ rating when measured against the standards of
a service weapon. Remark: a rare compliment in this magazine.. Function, bolt action: The
bolt continues to function as a bolt tensioner and, of course, has differently
designed bolt heads. He's now even quicker to remove than the original. The
extractor and ejector have also been redesigned. There is no longer a loading
strip milling on the left receiver-side. The triggers have a clearly noticeable pressure
point and a dry trigger pull without any scratches. The open sights with a
fixed rear sight and two flaps have pleasantly small diopter holes that are
well suited for the UIT target at 100 metres. The new magazine is the one from the M14-Rifle. Clever. Accessories: I will deliberately leave these aside in favour of the visit to the shooting range. Range-Report: The No.4 Mk4-Rifle capable of all .308 Win.-Ammo, obviously, was with totally 5 Reloads and 7 factory-loads tested And with a Leapers-Scope 6x24-50 with Mil-Dot-Reticle. The Handloads had all either a Lapua Scenar 167 gr-HPBT or a Sierra 168 gr-Matchking-projectile. They reached 5-shot-groups at 100 m between 18 and 34 mm resp. 0,708 and 1,338 inches. Their muzzle-velocities varied from 786-809 meters per second or 2578-2654 f/s. Using 5 different powder-types. The factory-ammo varied from 123 to 180 grs in bullet-weight. The lightest was the Lapua-Trainer, the 155 gr the Lapua Scenar and the only 168 gr-round here the Sellier-Match. Their groups reached 24-90 mm size, or 0,944 to 3,543 inches. The MV's varied from 2490 to 3044 f/s or 759 to 928 m/s. The rifle worked unproblematic. Testers were impressed by this accuracy. More details via PM, if necessary. The two testers described three notable features. The bolt was unusually difficult to operate. The strong magazine-feather pressed the feeder against the bolt. Correctable IMHO. The feeder blocks now after the last shot the bolt, perhaps annoying, depending on discipline, shooting-program. That is a construction-change. The high trigger on the No.4 Mk4 pull did not necessarily promote accuracy; on the carbine, it was almost 1 kilo lower. Manufacturing tolerances. Also correctable IMHO - today. Some would have liked to try out a No. 4 Mk4, also in comparison with a No. 4 Mk I/II. Me and others.. As far as i know there were once offered in Germany. By Waffen Schumacher OHG, Krefeld. The price: a No.4 Mk4 costed then 1070 Euro, the M10-A1-carbine in caliber 7,62 x 39 mm M43 960 Euro.
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paddyofurniture
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Posted: March 11 2026 at 7:57am |
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Sounds like a interesting rifle.
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Shamu
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Posted: March 11 2026 at 10:33am |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: March 11 2026 at 1:02pm |
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This is true!
Does it take a bayonet? Must be a real tank stoped in some peoples mind. Able to shoot down airplanes. No one needs a gun like that! |
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Posted: March 11 2026 at 4:25pm |
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If nothing else, it’s interesting that someone wanted to copy/redesign the No. 4 and sell it commercially. I wonder how many were sold?
This is similar to what the CMP is doing in the US, making new production M1 rifles, but these are faithful reproductions and are per the original design and use many USGI/commercial repro parts. It’s really only the receiver and bolt that is new manufacture. They are even legal for use in the M1 Garand matches (but of course they would be, CMP is making the new M1 rifles and they make the match rules too!). |
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Posted: March 16 2026 at 6:58am |
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[QUOTE=britrifles]If nothing else, it’s interesting that someone wanted to copy/redesign the No. 4 and sell it commercially. I wonder how many were sold?
This is similar to what the CMP is doing in the US, making new production M1 rifles, but these are faithful reproductions and are per the original design and use many USGI/commercial repro parts. It’s really only the receiver and bolt that is new manufacture. They are even legal for use in the M1 Garand matches (but of course they would be, CMP is making the new M1 rifles and they make the match rules too!). Good contribution, Britrifles ![]() I promise, asap I will find an answer to your question concerning the sales figures of the "AIA-Enfields". ![]() |
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