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Tony 
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 Posted: June 26 2016 at 12:58pm |
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I agree there are plenty of Brit and imigrant freeloaders and if the idiots in westminster clamped down on them things would be a lot easier but it seems to be a malais of our time the attitude of why should I work when the idiots paying taxes will feed cloth and house us. I see it every day at work the disabled youngsters are a meal ticket for the lazy bastards who bred them. Free cars on mobility allowance which are used as family runabouts whilst the kids are sent in on our ambulances, I know it's true because I drive one of the ambulances and on occasion have had to sit and wait until the parents arrive back home from being out joyriding and shopping. The cars are brand new servicing is paid for and a new set of tyres every year, the only thing they have to pay for is fuel. People who are waiting for council housing bypassed because they have to house gimmegrants first, the elderly I collect struggle in winter between heating and eating. The whole system stinks.
I hope it turns out ok for you in the future , I'll be redundant in August due to cutbacks and to be honest I can't wait, I'm 67 been gainfully employed since I was 17 and it's about time I relaxed a bit. |
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Rottie (PitBulls dad.)
“If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
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Shamu
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Posted: June 26 2016 at 3:08pm |
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"From a commercial trade point of view, the EU is good; but there's too
much meddling in some areas of politics that have nothing to do with
trade."
It certainly was like that back when I was Channel hopping & working in France Belgium & Holland back in the 70's. The old "Common Market" wasn't a bad idea but I have a bad feeling about the European Politics when I first heard of what was going to happen. As for the Brits & the Boers I say let it be, it was grandfathers times not ours.  |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: June 26 2016 at 8:03pm |
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ive stayed neutral as i have no dog in this fight [till today] im seeing my portfolio affected by the decision but i have thought for a few years that the EU was serving a few without serving the rest - granted just an outside observation ,
in the end propping up communism in any way does little else than deplete the resources of all - why not find a basis of economy to develop and invest in the future ?
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DairyFarmer
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Posted: June 26 2016 at 8:16pm |
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I think you now have to go live in Eire now to claim citizenship by paternity. They changed the law about 10 years back. Every time I went to Switzerland the boarder control never bothered opening my passport. I was always just waved through.
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paddyofurniture
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Posted: June 27 2016 at 7:23am |
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More Government job me think on the way. Hold on to your guns boys,girls, and Hoadie this one is going to get deep fast, more crap on the way.
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Pukka Bundook
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Posted: June 27 2016 at 8:18am |
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Having moved to Canada 33 years ago, I too feel unqualified to say much, but am very pleased they voted "out".
There is a lot of talk about losing jobs and such like, but the present system where a Small unelected group dictate the laws to all the lands of the EEC is disquieting to say the least. To me, it appears that if the focus can be kept on jobs and such, it diverts the attention away from the alarming facts that there is only a show or façade of democracy, and no actual democracy in the country. This from Roy, a good friend, and posted on British Militaria Forums; "For the 52% who voted Leave the crucial problem with the EU that now exists we can't "vote them out". As an example of the anti-democratic structure created in Brussels here are a couple of paragraphs from an article by Christopher Monkton.
"My three reasons for departure, in strict order of precedence, were Democracy, Democracy, and Democracy. For the so-called “European Parliament” is no Parliament. It is a mere duma. It lacks even the power to bring forward a bill, and the 28 faceless, unelected, omnipotent Kommissars – the official German name for the shadowy Commissioners who exercise the supreme lawmaking power that was once vested in our elected Parliament – have the power, under the Treaty of Maastricht, to meet behind closed doors to override in secret any decision of that “Parliament” at will, and even to issue “Commission Regulations” that bypass it altogether. Worse, the treaty that established the European Stability Pact gives its governing body of absolute bankers the power, at will and without consultation, to demand any sum of money, however large, from any member state, and every member of that governing body, personally as well as collectively, is held entirely immune not only from any civil suit but also from any criminal prosecution. That is dictatorship in the formal sense. Good riddance to it." We have already seen elected governments in Italy and Greece deposed when they disobeyed orders." To divert attention from these Facts and say that apples will cost more (so to speak!!) is extremely short -sighted and stupid. Sovereignty is Paramount. Tony had it right on page 2. That the younger generation (by and large) could find such a system acceptable, shows how far down the road the brainwashing has already gone. It is alarming! Best, Richard. |
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Posted: June 27 2016 at 8:20am |
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I am very happy for our UK friends. Your country will surely do well. Heck, we did it some 240 years ago and became good friends. Our fathers and grandfathers even died side by side.
We would lend you Trump, but he's got to be elected first. So you guys should come to Chicago and vote for him as often as you like. You just have to be careful what neighborhood your in. Congratulations.
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hoadie
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Posted: June 27 2016 at 9:10am |
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Your in Chicago??!! No wonder your armed!!  
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hoadie
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Posted: June 28 2016 at 5:19am |
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If I live to be an ancient old cuss, I'll NEVER figger out the so called "world monetary system".
Britain voted to jump - ship..thats fine.(I understand that part, & would probobaly voted same way, given what I've learned so far) BUT..why is the rest of the world's markets & dollar going for a dump? The U.s, Cdn, Aus. & just about everybody has taken a huge hit. (Cdn $ dropped a little over a full cent vs U.S $ right after vote - & they say it was Brexit)  Whats that got to do with us? Yes - there is some trade twixt us..nothing like U.S - Can trade - but why does this hit us so hard? (Or is it - as I suspect - smoke & mirrors to garner a timely profit for a few?) |
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Shamu
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Posted: June 28 2016 at 8:15am |
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Because its all based on variables, not fixed values. Look at it this way if every nation in the world has a deficit, who do we all owe money to?
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paddyofurniture
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Posted: June 28 2016 at 8:42am |
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PM me and I will send you a address you can send your money to.
And yes I am a Candian Prince. On a real note if you have any odd foreign coins I would be interested in them. |
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Pukka Bundook
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Posted: June 28 2016 at 8:43am |
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Hoadie,
Your last supposition is correct; Any excuse will do if it means someone makes money........and of course the majority Lose money. Remember a year or two back, when a fuel -train in Spain went off the lines? Our fuel here in Canada went up in price immediately! What have we to do with Spain????? Nothing but it gave them an excuse to raise the price! Tony, You are a bit blunt, just like my late uncle, but I think you are right! Said uncle worked all his life in the steel works, and RAF in the war, and as a pensioner had to pay for night school where he actually taught half the class, as the instructor said he knew more about machining then he did himself! He paid while the 'imports' got to go for free, and he was in his 80's at the time. Absolute disgrace. |
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Posted: June 28 2016 at 8:46am |
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There are a few things that effect the currency rates. Excluding dramatic things that happen in a country (war, floods,..), it boils down to commodities (food, oil,..), consumer goods (tv, car,..) and labour.
If you are a country that produces or processes items and have raw materials, you want a weaker currency. Other countries then buy the goods "cheap". Some governments artificially keep their currency low to bring in foreign trade. If you are a country that has little or no production or processing and limited raw materials, you need to have a high value currency because you buy everything in. Therefore we find the 3rd world countries have low value currency and 1st world countries have high value currencies. In order to bring in as much foreign cash as possible, produces tend to export as much as possible, often to the detriment of the people who live in that country. A country like Britain wants their currency strong as they produce very little compared to what they consume. America has more flexibility as it produces a higher percentage. China needs a low currency as they have secured vast quantities of cheap raw / reprocessed materials and has the labour force to mass produce at very low cost.
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hoadie
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Posted: June 28 2016 at 9:08am |
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Well - there ya go!! Clear as mud.
But DairyFarmer explains some of it..but still - in the Global perspective, I think its a lot of ado about nothing. People that have no stake in it, have too much to say about it.People that control the global markets use it as an excuse, as the "giant rabbit" said. Along that line - 3 years ago we had a sudden "shortage" of gasoline in Ontario, so the price shot way up. They used the excuse that there was a fire @ the Petro - Can refinery in Sarnia. I was Stateside for lunch, so I filled - up there.There just happened to be a fuel truck waiting to fill the tanks there.I noted the Cdn licence plates & asked the driver where he was coming from. He said "Sarnia". I asked,"what about the fire?" He told me it was a tool shed way in the back of the property, they use for storage of maintainance tools, & nowhere near the refinery. SWo - I guess these things are pretty much universal.."Bilk the public with any lie you can muster..all in the name of profit." 
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paddyofurniture
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Posted: June 28 2016 at 9:38am |
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It all comes down to the following,
Lie Deny Cry when you get caught Next deny it ever happened If you bring it up again you are a racist. |
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Posted: June 28 2016 at 10:09am |
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The following table may help to explain the situation:
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