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Longshaor
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 4:10am |
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Since you said the barrel is marked with a broad arrow, here's an easy way to check if it's .308 or not. Military .308 barrels (both the hammer-forged ones and the latter lathed ones) are marked "CR1470" on the knox form. Hope that helps.
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flanker
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Posted: June 01 2012 at 3:18am |
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The rifle is in fact a 303, it has a 303 5-round magazine and cycles 303 ammunition. The "spare" 10 round magazine is for 7.62. The rifle came from the estate of a chap who had pa$ed away. I think the people who cleared out his gun cabinet got some of the kit mixed up. I'm relieved since I bought a whole pile of 303 cases, heads and dies.
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Posted: June 01 2012 at 3:38am |
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I'm not sure on the legalities of this in the UK, but here in the US you could probably just swap out the 10-round .308 for a 10-round .303 (addding a few dollars to make up the difference in value as the .308 mags are rarer, here at least, than the .308 ones.)
I don't know the law on magazines in the UK now though.
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flanker
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Posted: June 01 2012 at 3:09pm |
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I think I can buy the 303 mag quite easily here.Not sure what the rules are about sending the 308 mag to the US though.
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Tony
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Posted: June 01 2012 at 3:39pm |
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There should be no problem sending a magazine to the USA parcel post as it's not cla$sed as an offensive weapon. 303 magazines are easily obtained in the UK but shop around, some of the gun dealers prices are a joke!
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Posted: June 02 2012 at 4:36pm |
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Definitely ( well just because it looks like mine) an L4 magazine.
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Posted: June 02 2012 at 4:38pm |
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how much for the L4 magazine??
last one I purchased through Enfield and it cost me 5poundsUK plus postage |
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flanker
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Posted: June 02 2012 at 5:54pm |
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Thanks mate, but I've agreed to sell it to Longshaor - I'm hoping to get about fifty quid off him but don't tell anyone
Seriously though, I've been looking around the web and can't find one for sale - anyone know what's a fair price?
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Posted: August 10 2012 at 11:38pm |
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Finally got the rifle out on the range today.
![]() The groups weren't too good 4-6 inches at 100m. This was using South African Mk7 ball from 1961. I noticed eventually that the scope mounts had some significant movement and stopping that seems to improve things but it came loose again. It's a rubber armoured chinese scope - trade name Leapers - I think that will need replaced. The trigger feels clunky and will need smoothing somehow I think. The scope mount is by Parker Hale and is fixed to what I believe are the mountings for the original rear sight. It seems to be a P-H BA21. The rifle has the receiver markings: No4 Mk1/2 (F) FTR / 54 BY15270 ( this number appears elsewhere and so I assume it is the serial number) The 10 round magazine is indeed a 7.62 and has the markings: CR1256 1965 on the follower and CR 141A and 65 on the case. The flush fitting 303 mag is fine but I noticed a few misfeeds which seemed to be caused by rounds coming off the follower at a steep angle and missing the chamber. Fired about 40 rounds, my shoulder knows it's been to the range I can tell you! It was nice to a have a pop with my Ruger 223 as well, the accuracy of the Ruger re-assured me that I was still shooting straight |
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Posted: August 14 2012 at 1:21am |
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i must say , much as i prefer them in original military nick , they do make a handsome sporting rifle when done competently
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Posted: August 14 2012 at 2:21am |
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I think I will eventually get a nice No 4 in the original state, they are an iconic rifle. This one was converted at a time when the originals were ten a penny. At least its a classic British conversion and not a nasty bubba-job
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Posted: August 14 2012 at 2:39am |
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true that :>}
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Posted: August 18 2012 at 11:44am |
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An Ishapore 7.62 magazine wouldn't fit a No4 even in 7.62, surely.
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Posted: August 18 2012 at 10:49pm |
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I don't know, probably not, the 7.62 magazine has now gone to a new home with Longshaor. Mind you, I wouldn't mind getting hold of a spare 5-round No 4 303 magazine in case I lose the one I've got
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Posted: September 02 2012 at 5:46am |
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This 5-round magazine has issues. The 5th round exits the magazine at a very steep angle. Instead of entering the chamber, the point of the round lodges in the upper, front corner of the breech. Very irritating - any thoughts?
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Posted: January 01 2013 at 4:57am |
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I´m new to this forum, and I have to say that it makes me happy to have Enfield loving comrades all over the world. I own two of these great rifles and use them for hunting in Germany and eastern Europe. Both are ...ehm...hunterized. I try to add pics. One is a Parker Hale conversion 1944 Mk4 No 1, five groove barrel, purchased in mint condition in Germany, equipped with a CanWest trigger system, adjusted with 1 Kg =2 pounds trigger weight and custom made Weaver bases and a Pentax Gameseeker 3-15x50 scope. The second one is a 1943 Long Branch Mk4 No 1*, two grove barrel. This one is very special, but never found aut how it came to existece. Probably a gunsmith exam work, and was never shot before I purchsed it. The rear sight and bridge is cut off completely, so it bears a 3 point custom Weaver rail with a Weaver Grand Slam 3-9x40 scope. The original trigger was modified to single-pull at 2 kg= 4 pounds. I`m looking forward to your opinions and questions, if any! |
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