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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 303Guy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2013 at 5:37pm
Beautiful rifle.

It's strange that someone would cut off the charger bridge.  The best scope mounting point out there and they cut it off!  Oh well.

I do like the rear scope base fitting on the one in your pic.  I have a different use for the original rear sight mount.


It clips onto a ring on my back pack strap.  Real cool for walking about and the rifle can be shouldered without unclipping it but unclipping it is quick and easy enough.  ( have a bad elbow and can't carry a rifle for too long).

Oh, that fat thing on the butt is for digging into the ground on steep and slippery slopes in the bush.  It's cross grain bit of wood.  It works - even with the carry cord clipped on.  It's shock cord so stretches.

Anyway, it would be great to see photo's of your other rifle too. 
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Originally posted by llaszloboehm llaszloboehm wrote:

Dear Gentlemen,
I´m new to this forum, and I have to say that it makes me happy to have Enfield loving comrades all over the world. I own two of these great rifles and use them for hunting in Germany and eastern Europe.
Both are ...ehm...hunterized. I try to add pics.  One is a Parker Hale conversion 1944 Mk4 No 1, five groove barrel, purchased in mint condition in Germany, equipped with a  CanWest trigger system, adjusted with 1 Kg =2 pounds trigger weight and custom made Weaver bases and a Pentax Gameseeker 3-15x50 scope. The second one is a 1943 Long Branch Mk4 No 1*, two grove barrel. This one is very special, but never found aut how it came to existece. Probably a gunsmith exam work, and was never shot before I purchsed it. The rear sight and bridge is cut off completely, so it bears a 3 point custom Weaver rail with a Weaver Grand Slam 3-9x40 scope. The original trigger was modified to single-pull at 2 kg= 4 pounds. I`m looking forward to your opinions and questions, if any!
 
 
Hi Llazlo,
My rifle is like yours. a Parker Hale conversion. It was sold as a BSA, but that was not correct.
What sort of ound did you you use to shoot the roe deer? I'm very interested in that idea and have started loading with Sierra 125 and 150gr soft point Spitzers which seem accurate. None of these have been use on a live target yet. I have a 6x42 S+B Hungartian scope on mine with a S+K one piece mount. I'll add pictures.
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Good evening Gentlemen,
 
I´m glad to be wellcomed this heartedly in this forum. I´m a hunter since 2009 and my major game is roe deer, due to environmental opportunities. Let me tell about the cartridges, which I use:
150 grain Soft Point Spitzer with Vo =810 m/s from the czech ammo maker Sellier&Bellot  
180 grain SP Pro Hunter Sierra with Vo=710 m/s hand loaded
Both types out of the Long Branch. Precision between 1 to 1,5 Inches. The shooting distaces were between 50 up to 120 meters. They work very well, with minimal damage to meat, when with good impact point (rib cage)  the game dropped immediately or ran less then 50 meters.
With the Parker Hale Conversion I´use factory 180 grain SPRN High Speed Core Lockt made by Remington. Its accurate like the other one. The round works superb on roe deer, fox , the shown piglet and 4 weeks ago female red deer . I have also 150 grain Speer PSP wih Vo=750 m/s and 180 grain Sierra Pro Hunter with Vo=750 m/s in my locker, Powder is Vhitavuori N140, but did not tryed them, because the range would open at 9 January. I´m going to take a few detail pics to discuss about and I´ll take photos of shooting results with the ammo I operate.
 
I wish You all, a good day
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Welcome-welcome-welcome. Nice shootin irons.
But I gotta tell ya, I got a chuckle out of the "deer" you bagged. I thot it was a rabbit at first! Guess I'm blessed, living over here where the deer tend to be much bigger!
Not trying to be sarcastic..but are you able to glean much meat from a deer like that? I'm asking cuz I don't know.
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Good morning Gentlemen, dear Hoadie,
 
for those among us, who are not educated properly in zoological issues, the animal you see is probably a hungarian roe rabbit (that hunt happened really in Hungary)......You are ideed blessed with game in Canada. We over here are limited to roe deer, red deer, dam deer, sika deer, wild sheep, black alpine goats, wild pigs, moose in scandinavia, lynx, wolfes and bears in eastern Europe plus birds and few predators. Bur generally the size of game is lower than in Northern America. That roe deer has a live weight between 12-20 Kg, with guts out and skinned 8-14 Kg, pure meat 6-12 kg.
My first red deer in November last year had 50 kg with guts out. I took it at approx 100-120 meters with factory Remington Core Lockt 180 grain SPRN bullet, top lung shot, straigt penetration, approx 2 inches exit hole. I`ll try a pic in a second message, otherwise, it will probably mess up with my picture manager.
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Here are a few pics of my Parker Hale No 4. It now has a Schmidt and Bender 6x42 scope with S+K Mount. These are some of my Sierra Spitzer 125 gr soft points, I'm thinking of adding the original military sling.
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Not sure what's happened Ouch  - I uploaded 4 pictures and only one is showing - I've tried uploading again and get a message telling me these are already uploaded.
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OK, try this: Here are a few pics of my Parker Hale No 4. It now has a Schmidt and Bender 6x42 scope with S+K Mount. These are some of my Sierra Spitzer 125 gr soft points, I'm thinking of adding the original military sling.
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Much better, nice setup.
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Hi!
 
have You tried those 123 gn bullets? I use Sierra Game King Spitzer 120 gn at 850 m/s in my Swedish Mauser on roe deer, and the effect is more than satisfying. I suppose, that out of an Enfield the same effect happens, when the same bullet type is eployed (regardless of caliber). Accuracy remains the final question, because the Enfields were made for 174 gn bullets at a velocity not higher than 800 m/s
Now the mount: is that made of steel or aluminium alloy? Do the rings belong to the rail?
Next: the magazine. I´have serious feeding problems, when using the 180 gn Round Nose Remington ammo. These difficulties do not occure with spitzer ammo. Unfortunately the same problem is present
in my other Long Branch made Enfield, though the conversion ist different and the magazines are not interchangeble. Did You try RN bullets allready?
 
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Originally posted by muffett.2008 muffett.2008 wrote:

Much better, nice setup.


It seems to hold zero pretty well but I think I need to shim the front mount somehow, I can zero  lower than 200m at the moment.
Funny thing, the originals pictures look fine in Firefox but not in Explorer.
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Hi! this is for 303Guy,
 
as You can see, there is no way to carry my rifle with a rubberflex-cord....by the way, Your method is a
creative one. They`ve cut of the complete rear bridge, so I was forced to pay a fortune to the gunsmith for this half side mount. But it works perfectly. I´ll post a pic with the other side
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Cool looking rifle, that's an interesting scope rail solution!
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