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Zed 
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Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I've learnt something today.👍
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It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice!
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MARTINRF
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Posted: March 10 2022 at 4:49am |
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...here is the pattern Australian '08/15 leather equivalent to the web equipment combination...the bayonet was made in '11 by Mole with the (pre-November 1913 Military District adoption) State of Victoria Ordnance Department stamps applied to both the crossguard and the scabbard throat - unusual to find a bayonet snd scabbard that have been together after all that amount of time...(8{
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AussieShooter
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Posted: March 10 2022 at 5:22am |
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Thanks Marco, great insight. I had no idea. Can you imagine digging fox holes, or worse, trenches with an entrenching tool! I guess it is a labor of necessity when someone is shorting at you!
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"Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges" - Tacitus
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Shamu
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Posted: March 10 2022 at 9:08am |
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Small trivia point. The "Sirhind tool" was originally issued as an INtrenching tool & later changed to be an ENtrenching tool. There were 2 versions of it. One (shown) was "plain", the other had a "fake" no4 barrel top & bayonet lugs on the end of the handle, to allow a bayonet to be attached to "probe for mines"!  |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Marco1010
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Posted: March 10 2022 at 4:41pm |
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I had an old family friend who served with the NZ division in North Africa in WW2 , he made the point that when under fire or being bombed the most effective way to dig in fast was using your helmet.
He said that unlike most british units the New Zealanders tended to dump useless british army equipment fast and scrounge (or steal where necessary) anything better. He was a signaler and started out armed with a revolver (only good for throwing at the enemy) then a Thompson SNG (heavy and rattled loudly with the drum mags, also poked you in the back when slung) then used a lee enfield rifle ( meant you didn't stand out as a high value target) and was useful to tie aerial wires to when stuck in the ground with the bayonet fitted) this was because there were very few trees around in North Africa to tie the aerial wires to.
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Goosic
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I have the second version...
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Shamu
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Posted: March 10 2022 at 5:29pm |
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Me too. The locals are becoming a little concerned with me hacking "zombie mint" out of my yard with it. Gawd bless em.  |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Zed
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Posted: March 11 2022 at 4:08am |
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Wait until you start shooting the dead branches of the trees with the .303
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MARTINRF
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...here is my latest acquisition - another 1915 Lithgow, with the hooked-quillon intact...it joins a small, but perfectly formed, collection of 1907 bayonets...all have either 1 MD, 2 MD, 3 MD, or pre-M.D., markings showing their service within the Australian military forces...the shape of the quillon differs between British and Australian manufacturing, as does the hand stamping upon the ricasso...(8{
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MARTINRF
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Posted: November 15 2023 at 9:31am |
   ...another recent acquisition...an early CHAPMAN marked blade, numbered with the State of Victoria marking on the crossguard and 3MD on the throat edge... |
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Posted: November 15 2023 at 9:37pm |
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very nice collection
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MARTINRF
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Posted: February 06 2024 at 3:06am |
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...I have added another bayonet to the collection - all with Australian Military District stamps...early Chapman made P'07 with issue stamps...
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ShineRose
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Posted: May 08 2024 at 3:53am |
Good and huge collection.
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MARTINRF
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Posted: July 07 2025 at 7:24am |
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...my latest acquisition...another Chapman made '07 - manufactured in November '09 - with Australian (pre-MD designation) service markings (as do all of those in my small collection)...(8{
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