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    Posted: March 14 2009 at 7:58pm
hey everyone
just the other day i picked up 100rds of .303 military ammo dated between 1950-1968
one of my mates said that after shooting, it would be best to pour a litre of boiling hot water down the bore to remove the Cordite and then clean the bore like normal to prevent the bore from rusting up. is this true? and if so why hot water?
i have never heard of this cleaning method before?
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Military ammo was primed with Mecuric primers. It was the salts from the primers which caused the rusting.

If not properly cleaned after shooting corrosive ammo, your rifles bore will rust overnight.
The military used boiling water to neautralise the salts and this method still works. The reason they used boiling water was because it dried quickly.
I have seen people recommending windex but have not tried it myself.
I dont use boiling water but do use a solvent which my father makes.
I think black powder solvent would work ok as well.
Whatever you do clean your rifle after using corrosive ammo or it WILL rust.
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As everyone else has said, you need to remove the corrosive primer residue with a suitable method (pick one they all seem to work.)
HOWEVER!
Don't JUST use boiling water. At least oil the bore afterwards as it'll be bone dry when you're done with the windex or water.
Personally I just do a thorough cleaning with Hoppes the same day.
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I use black powder solvents when I can as Lithgow mentioned. Thompson Center makes a milk looking cleaner that works well, plus it has additives to help inhibit the formation of rust. It does work very well because it is water based. Then afterwards  I clean as any othe modern rifle using non corrosive ammo with petroleum based solvents I have never used glass cleaners, but I have no doubt that they would work since they are a water based cleaner. Just one needs to make sure the finish up with nitro solvents and oir the bore to ensure no rust will form.

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I use hot water (as hot as I can get it)....run it through a bit.
Three solvent soaked patches....push back and forwards a few times for each patch.
Let it sit for a minute or two.
Tight bronze brush 15-20 times back and forwards.
Couple of dry patches to catch all the broken free crud.
Gunslick foaming bore cleaner for an hour or so.
Patch out, clean as a whistle.
Seems more involved than it really is.
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unrealpara , they are right boiling water removes the majority and nuetralizes the salts and dries fast , then clean as usual.. I have aproximatly over 3000 rounds of .303 mill-Surp and shoot pretty regular. and cleaning is a must even if its not corrosive. its a good habit to be in...
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I use boiling water after shooting my Enfield musket.Then clean again with the swabs etc.(Note: Dont do it in the house...not unless your lookin fer an excuse for her to throw ya out!!It really stinks!)
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Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

I use boiling water after shooting my Enfield musket.Then clean again with the swabs etc.(Note: Dont do it in the house...not unless your lookin fer an excuse for her to throw ya out!!It really stinks!)
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The sulfur odor Hoadie given off from the cleaning of your Black powder musket could also be confused with your excessive flatulence. Dead
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 Don't use milsurp use the boiling water for TEA!!!!  See us POMS do know how to make a decent brew!Big smile
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Yeah sorry, I should have added that it still requires cleaning after the boiling water treatment.
I only use Milsurp ammo and have no dramas with rust. You just gotta clean it properly afterwards.
I clean all my guns after I have finished shooting.
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http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/corrosive/index.asp


something like this?
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The corrosive element is salt. Salt is dissolved in water. Hot or boiling water is good. Some dish washing detergent can't hurt and may help dissolve the salt. Most gun cleaners don't have enough water in them to dissolve the salt, even the ones that claim work for cleaning after corrosive ammunition. Powder solvents won't remove the salts.
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thanks guys! thats heaps helpful!!! Smile
 
 
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Originally posted by Tony Tony wrote:

 Don't use milsurp use the boiling water for TEA!!!!  See us POMS do know how to make a decent brew!Big smile
 
Now Tony how would I clean my rifle with a bag of Twinings? Well I guess I could use it has a pull thru?
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Originally posted by John Coleman John Coleman wrote:

The corrosive element is salt. Salt is dissolved in water. Hot or boiling water is good. Some dish washing detergent can't hurt and may help dissolve the salt. Most gun cleaners don't have enough water in them to dissolve the salt, even the ones that claim work for cleaning after corrosive ammunition. Powder solvents won't remove the salts.
 
Thank you John for summing up all the above posts.
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Salt does dissolve in water but it doesn't evaporate. It needs to be completely cleaned and flushed out. Salt doesn't dissolve in oil. I'm not sure "pouring" water down the barrel is required but use plenty of water to clean it and other parts. Hoppe's 9 is 10% water and cost about $12 a bottle. Water is cheap and 10 times better at dissolving salt. Compressed air is fast for drying if you have an air compressor. If not dry the parts and then clean with solvent after drying and then oil the firearm or use a cleaner / lubricant.
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