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    Posted: February 03 2009 at 10:38am
does anybody use those hornady 303 light magnums? i would like to know how they performe and do they stil make them.i whent to a gun show last fall and came across a box of imperial cil215 grain and bought them are they that hard to get cause if they are i wont use them.if anybody knowes where i could get a unlimited supply please let me know.maby my last option is to relode
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I have Hornady 150gr spire points for hunting, but I have wondered:
How effective is the 175gr Mk VII bullet on game?
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Are you talking about the full metal jacketed projectiles??? if so FMJ projectiles were not made to for hunting in mind.
A hunting projectile is supposed to delever a good shock and bleed the animal if a vital is not hit at first...
A FMJ projectile is ment to take a human down with minimal colateral damage when it exits....
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hunting with FMJ is illegal(not to mention CRUEL)
Dont do it
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DO NOT TRY THIS!  Using an Old VietNam trick taking about 1/16" off the tip and you have a bullet that will expand
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FMJ on a hunting trip?! Stern Smile i guess it depends on what ure hunting aye.
otherwise 180gr lead soft points are great! Thumbs Up although i have seen 174gr FMJ hollow points around. has anyone had any sucessfully hunts with these sort? 
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The Mk VII bullet is designed to tumble violently on impact. The front third inside the jacket is aluminum, the rest is lead. It's long and tail heavy.
 
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With far better options out there for hunting than the MkVII, I would have to ask why you'd choose it on purpose?


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Be careful if you cut into the nose of an FMJ round of any type.
There are documented cases of the lead core blowing out in the bore & leaving just a mangled jacket behind.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tony Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2009 at 1:40am
Originally posted by unrealpara unrealpara wrote:

FMJ on a hunting trip?! Stern Smile i guess it depends on what ure hunting aye.
otherwise 180gr lead soft points are great! Thumbs Up although i have seen 174gr FMJ hollow points around. has anyone had any sucessfully hunts with these sort? 


 The hollow point is for stability in flight NOT for hunting. As Rhino and Hoadie rightly say using them is both cruel and unethical. FMJ was and is made to conform to League of Nations now The Geneva Convention which stipulated the use of FMJ ammunition for military use. You hit an animal with an FMJ it can and will run possibly badly wounded and will die an agonising death.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tony Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2009 at 5:52am
Originally posted by Smokey Smokey wrote:

The Mk VII bullet is designed to tumble violently on impact. The front third inside the jacket is aluminum, the rest is lead. It's long and tail heavy.
 


 Thats utter Bullsh*t.  I Read the article you posted and all I can say is it's a shame people like that post garbage!!
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OK, Sorry I started a firestorm here.Ouch
I have no intention of hunting with Mk VII bullets.
I already mentioned I have Hornady soft points loaded for the purpose.
I was simply wondering how well Mk VII bullets would work "in a pinch" as it were.
 
I know military ammo was used in Africa, is there any record of Mk VII ammo used on game?
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I think some heffalunk herds were culled with it back in the day.
Probably because penetration was so important.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Originally posted by Cookie Monster Cookie Monster wrote:

   
What you're just as likely to end up with is a bullet that blows it's core out through the front of it's jacket. Don't be tight, buy some soft points.


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Originally posted by Harry mac Harry mac wrote:

Originally posted by Cookie Monster Cookie Monster wrote:

You can take MKVII ammo and hunt. Use an Old VietNam trick take about 1/16" off the tip and you have a bullet that will expand

 
What you're just as likely to end up with is a bullet that blows it's core out through the front of it's jacket. Don't be tight, buy some soft points.
 
 
Harry you are 100% correct! That comment was ment to be a sarcastic remark to emphasis just that. I will correct that post immediately so no one misinterprets it. Thank you again.  
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SOFT NOSED AMUNITION WAS DESIGNED FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
TO PRODUCE HYDROSTATIC SHOCK MAXIMISE THE DAMAGE AND HUMANELY KILL THE QUARRY YOU ARE HUNTING. QUITE FRANKLY ANYBODY WHO USES FMJ /HOLLOWPOINT TARGET AMMO FOR SHOOTING IS 1 LEAVING THEMSELVES OPEN TO POSSIBLE PROSECUTION AND 2 MORE IMPORTANTLY LIKELY TO CAUSE PROBLEMS ON HERE DUE TO THE ANTI HUNTING AND SHOOTING LOBBY. USE THE AMMUNTION DESIGNED TO DO THE JOB AND DON'T  LEAVE THE MEMBERS OF THE FORUM WIDE OPEN TO CRITICISM FOR UNETHICAL PRACTICES.
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