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Cookie Monster
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Posted: October 31 2007 at 8:59am |
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Hatchetman
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Posted: October 31 2007 at 3:11pm |
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As usual cookie is posting excessive amounts of info, the bloody troll!
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And the snow will cover tracks, And I'll be watching, Because I'm hunting you - Sarah Blasko, The Gardens End |
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allan
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Posted: October 31 2007 at 3:38pm |
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whats a troll?
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'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!'
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Tony
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Posted: October 31 2007 at 5:58pm |
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A monster who lives in dark caves etc and scares kids. Bit like Dave but not as hairy!
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Rottie (PitBulls dad.)
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Smokey
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Posted: November 01 2007 at 6:54am |
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As a "Bloody Yank" I'm also a fan of the .30-06. You can do a lot with it.
I'm also a fan of the .303 British, 7.5x55 Swiss, 7.5x54 MAS, 7.62.54mm R, 7.7 x58mm, and a bunch of others.
They pretty much all do the same thing, and do it well. The key point is the rifles that use them. They're interesting to work with and all have their peculiar quirks and virtues.
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hoadie
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Posted: November 01 2007 at 7:35am |
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See what happens!!??
Ya wind Cookie up & he's off like the Energizer Bunny!! He just keeps going & going &...
Its OK Cookie!! Great info there, mate!!
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Loose wimmen tightened here
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Shamu
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Posted: November 01 2007 at 8:45am |
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The ol' thuty aught six is ok. But only if you like those newfangled cases without a solid rim to wrap a honking big extractor round.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Cookie Monster
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Posted: November 01 2007 at 2:47pm |
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sontez31
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Posted: November 01 2007 at 5:42pm |
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Wow!! Guess I stirred up the pot, didn't I? I just want to say that my intention wasn't to upset anybody. I just wanted to creat a topic that would start a conversation............and it looks like I succeded. Also, I just wanted tease those of you who are not so keen on the .30-06.
However..............here are my responses and observations to some of your posts ( I won't mention any names).
I thought my indentations on the left hand side signified a new paragraph. However, if you'd like, I can indent AND double space to begin new paragraphs. Perhaps when I thought I was learning English in school, I was really learning American.
I'm not a big guy, only 5' 6" and 135 lbs. The .30-06 has never left me bruised and battered. Maybe a little sore after a box of ammo at the range, but not bad enough to not want to shoot it anymore. I just never found the .30-06 uncomfortable to shoot.
The .270 Win, .280 Rem, and .25-06 are ALL .30-06 cases that have been necked down to smaller calibers. I've shot a .270 and have not found it to be any easier to shoot than a .30-06. They are all about the same, it's just the percieved recoil that feels different.
The .308 Win is 7.62x51 while the .30-06 is 7.62x63. The .308 was designed to give near .30-06 performance, only in a short action length using more efficient powder. All things being equal (weight of rifle, bullet weight, etc., etc.,.), the .308 actually produces a little less recoil energy than the .30-06.
The .223, or 5.56x45 Nato, wan not designed to merely wound and thereby incapacitate three people on a battle field rather than kill and only take out one person. It passed the military tests for penetration at given distances, but more importantly, allowed the soldier to carry much more ammunition per pound than the .308. However, in my honest opinion, that line of thinking ruined the principals of marksmanship where you make every bullet count. The .223 started the whole "spray and pray" style of shooting.
Dave, thank you for your support. I appreciate all firearms, and almost all calibers. I say almost because I really see no need for the huge magnums, but that's just my opinion.
As I have said in the New Members area, you all seem like really nice people. Way more friendly that some other firearms forums that I've looked at. You all seem really friendly and easy going. What can I say, I read some posts that put down the .30-06 and felt it was my patriotic duty to stand up for the old round. I would expect any of you Canadians, Australians, or British to do the same if one of us Yanks were to talk bad about the .303. And yes, I do realize this IS a forum dedicated to the Enfield and thus the .303.
Well, this is me getting off my soap box. Hope I didn't upset too many of you. I'm really just an easy going guy who also happens to be a bit of a smart ass. Take care.
Sonny
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Shamu
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Posted: November 01 2007 at 8:05pm |
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I'm a bit of a wiseacre too, as you might have figured out.
I have nothing against the 30-06, It's just that I've never owned one, already having 2 .30 cal rifles, one in .303 Brit & the other in .308. I couldn't justify a third one (at least not to the wife).
The best way I can think of (other than promising to vote for Hillary)
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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sontez31
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Posted: November 02 2007 at 3:36pm |
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What's wrong with voting for Hillary??????
Sorry, even I couldn't keep a straight face while I typed that!!!!
Well, just keep working on the wife, maybe she'll give in and let you get a .30-06. But hey, there's nothing wrong with the .308!! I plan on building my own .308 sometime in the near future. The best way I can describe it and keep it P.C. would be: a long range, precision, tactical rifle. Know what I mean? Here in Montana, I have a local range that actually has a 1000 yard range. I don't NEED to ever shoot that far, but I just want to challenge myself.
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Tony
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Posted: November 02 2007 at 8:01pm |
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Heard an intersting story some years ago about a Ghillie in Scotland. He was snowed inand bored so he made a rifle. Used the half shaft off a land rover for the barrel . Guess what? It passed proof. Now thats what I call a craftsman.
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Rottie (PitBulls dad.)
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Cookie Monster
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Posted: November 03 2007 at 8:05am |
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Tony I had a 22-250 on a savage action that the barrel was made from a Jeep axle shot like a charm.
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enfieldboy
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Posted: November 03 2007 at 5:28pm |
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what's 30-06? enfieldboy
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There are only three kinds of people in this world. Those that can count and those that can't.
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Smokey
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Posted: November 03 2007 at 8:33pm |
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enfieldboy,
It's thirty rifles that there were six each made of.
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