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enfieldboy 
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 Posted: November 04 2007 at 1:17am |
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Sounds good Smokey
You could go in most sports shops here and there wouldn't be 30-06 on the shelf. But there would be .303 and6.5x55. A bit OTT for our style of hunting in the bush(read jungle). Most of our shots are under 100yds unless you are shooting thar in the southern alps.
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Posted: November 04 2007 at 6:36pm |
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Sontec !!! Keep up the good work
 These Bastards need a good winding up ! You'll learn here , personal attacks are a no-no ,but other than that it's als fair in love & war I don't live in a cave either! I live under a bridge & am waiting for a certain Goat for a rematch ! The 5.56/.223 .........Well ? Yes I have had a hell of a lot of experience with this round ! It's adquette for Thin skin Game (Roos ,Goats ,Homosapiens ) . You've got to remember though the M16 was originally designed for us in Arctic conditions & originally the experimental rifles were chambered for the .22 Hornet as even a wound in Arctic conditions causes rapid body heat loss causing rapid shock A Troll in computer language is a sh*t stirrer Dave |
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Posted: November 04 2007 at 6:56pm |
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Now if you think that '06 gets no respect, try the 30-40 krag!
Its the Rodney Dangerfield of cartridges.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Cookie Monster
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Posted: November 04 2007 at 8:55pm |
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I was blessed and givin a chance to shoot a Krag I was pleased with it. I want to add one to my collection. CM
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sontez31
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Posted: November 05 2007 at 1:18am |
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Thanks for the support, Dave!!! Think I'm going to try and stir things up a bit for the Enfield/.303 purists! I need to look at my reloading books and find dimensions on overall case length and so forth, but I think I have a really great idea. Provided the action length is long enough, what would you all think if I bought No.4 Mk.1, installed a new barrel, new bolt head and modified the magazine to convert the rifle to shoot .30-06???? |
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Posted: November 05 2007 at 5:26am |
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Dave what you get up to with goats is your business!! You got a video of it????
Typical heathen Yank comment oooooooooooo convert it to 30 06. Sooner we take back the colonies and civilise you buggers the better! Second thoughts let you lot have em. We pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq and leave you to it! It would be safer judging by the number of our lads getting banged up with so called friendly fire! Who flies the planes the pilot or his guide dog???
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Posted: November 05 2007 at 6:20am |
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I think you'll have re-invented the P-17
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Hatchetman
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Posted: November 05 2007 at 2:06pm |
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Convert a No4 to dirty oh six!
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Smokey
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Posted: November 06 2007 at 8:20am |
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Hatchetman, before you seek the guilty to draw and quarter, the .30-06 is too long for the No. 4 action. I still think the 7.5x55mm Swiss would be a good conversion candidate.
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Posted: November 07 2007 at 12:43pm |
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I've owned and shot/hunted with four 30-06's. Oddly enough three of the four were sporterized U.S. M1917's (2 Winchesters and 1 Remington). The other was a Remington Model 700 BDL left handed. Didn't keep the 700 too long.
I used the M1917's in Alaska, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Tenn., Kentucky, and a few other states to take deer and larger game.
Stiil have one of the 1917's.
But, I really like the .303 British too. Bullet selection is not as diverse as the ought six but there is a large enough selection to shoot and kill cleanly anything on the North American continent.
Same can be said for the .308 Winchester, 45/70, 30-40 Krag, and I do believe even that new upstart the 338 Federal (which I have an Israeli Mauser just dying to be turned into, not to worry, it's not a WW2 vet but an FN manufacture and not in the best of shape/condition).
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Posted: November 07 2007 at 4:13pm |
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You know, I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a P17. Unfortunately I'm left handed and have a bit of a problem cycling most right handed bolts with my right hand. However the .30-06 that I do have is a Mauser M96 with a straight pull bolt, it's the easiest right handed rifle for me to operate. I swore to myself that my next bolt action was going to be a left handed action, but then the Enfield bug hit me! Good luck with the .338 Federal conversion, let us know how it turns out!
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Posted: November 07 2007 at 8:40pm |
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I found an Eddystone P17 yesterday at a Pawn Shop the metal was still intact so she was repairable. The furniture was a quality walnut stock. The proprietor was giving me this line that it was all-original, so at this point we are negotiating a price. I would like to pick up this piece to restore to her original state.
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SW28fan
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Posted: November 19 2007 at 1:09pm |
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I too hope to get a M1917/P-17 soon. My gunsmith (whoose storage "system" raises disorganization to an art form) claims to have a box with four wings intact M1917 actions and three wings intact P-14 actions. He did give a very nice stock and a box of misc hardware. Some day hopefully before I die he will find it and I will have a 30-06 rifle. Though I live in Texas I hunt with a 8x57 mannlivher stocked carbine and collect Enfields. For maximum fun I will admit that the 30-06 is certainly a ok cartridge. Though if I have another hunting rifle built it will be in 7x64 or 6.5x57 with a European style stock.
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I'm new to Enfield's also and have owned and loaded for 30.06's for over 40 years. I kind of started reading the enfield format by accident and became interested. I purchased Ian Skennerton's book in July and really only intended to purchase 2 rifles. I was going to get a SMLE and a No.4 Mk1. Since August I have ended up with seven rifles. I hate cleaning all that cosmoline but love the look of these things. In the US about 15 years ago they were cheap and plentiful,(wished I had bought them then). Here in New Mexico they are plenty powerful enough to hunt anything we have. I have a Long Branch made in 1942 and shoot it along side my 03-A3 Springfield made in 1943. The Long Branch action is smoother and both very accurate. I'm hooked on Enfields and the 303. Plus the new interest in something different is cool.
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Glad you become addicted welcome to the forum
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The M1917 was (is) one excellent rifle. Being heavy with a 26 inch barrel, it allows heavy charges of slow powders with long heavy bullets to really smash critters down without smashing the shooter. They are extremely accurate and boy are they rugged. I suspect someone in British ordinance really wanted to come up with a good British rifle to use our EXCELLENT "yank" cartridge (instead of that 7mm crap). And that's how it turned out.
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