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The Lee-Enfield "Mad Minute" |
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rb67mustang
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Posted: October 14 2022 at 7:39am |
Thanks for sharing this detailed information about the "Mad Minute." When I knew I had found my first Enfield Rifle, even before I paid for it; I watched as many videos with the N05 I found on YouTube. That's when I heard Ian of Forgotten Weapons speak of the "Mad Minute." Sadly, the outdoor 100 yard range I use doesn't allow rapid fire, and the indoor range I use during the winter is only 30 yards in length and they also don't like rapid fire unless they know you well and that you're safe & qualified to do so.
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Posted: October 14 2022 at 7:53am |
Thanks for sharing both of Rob's "Mad Minute" videos. The second video is close to what Shamu shared with us.
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Posted: October 14 2022 at 10:23am |
Thanks for mentioning this book, Richard! I did a quick search and found it on Evil-bay and it was in the US (less S&H), so i sanpped it up!!!
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Posted: October 14 2022 at 10:27am |
WOW!!! There's some very Good & Free teaching in this thread. Thanks for sharing your experience, Shamu.
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Posted: October 14 2022 at 10:33am |
OMG!!!LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here lies, William, shot 31 times in 1 minute, May he RIP.
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Posted: October 22 2022 at 2:02pm |
![]() Apologies I thought this was a new post about the mad minute to which I've already posted earlier. |
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Posted: October 22 2022 at 5:00pm |
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Yes, an old thread, but an interesting topic. The LE is without question the fasted bolt rifle of it’s time, maybe still the fastest bolt action service rifle of all time.
We should keep in mind though that these achievements by pre WWI instructors are not at all typical of the skills of the soldiers sent into battle, particularly as the war progressed and new recruits were pressed into service as replacements. This is where the US had an advantage with the M1, a recruit becomes proficient with well aimed rapid fire with an auto loading rifle much faster than with a bolt rifle. There is a reason that present day infantry don’t carry a bolt action service rifle. I’ve done a lot of shooting with both the M1 and No. 4 and I can’t achieve the same rate of well aimed fire (under 4 MOA) with these two rifles. I could shoot the 15 shots in 60 seconds with my No. 4, but probably would not hold 4 MOA with it. Pretty easy to shoot two 8 round clips with the M1 in 60 seconds. By the way, I would not want to practice this “Mad Minute” exercise too much, it’s a definite barrel burner. I suppose guys like Snoxall might find the M1 gas system too slow to operate and would prefer a bolt action rifle …
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Posted: October 22 2022 at 5:06pm |
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There's a "Zombie Shoot Mad Minute Video" out there. Is shot standing, unsupported & at about 35 Yds. You have to stoop to the dirt to pick up a charger & of course dismount to do it. Now I get its a fun shoot, rather than a Historical re-enactment, but the loading, gun-handling in general & short stroking because of rim jams is horrible. If you're gong to do a "Mad Minute Drill" I'd hope for much better!
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: May 07 2024 at 7:02am |
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I am a qualified NRA RCO and when I was my clubs secretary I put the mad minute together using thos exact instructions. There is nothing more satisfying than hearing 15 Lee's blatting away down the range. At the point of watch and shoot watch and shoot. I used to take my defenders off to hear the music. I'm ex Army and an ex skill at arms instructor so my ears are f**Ed anyway
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Posted: May 07 2024 at 11:30am |
Join the club John, my first posting after boys service was depot regiment for the School of Artillery at Larkhill.
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Posted: May 08 2024 at 1:14am |
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Fortunately for me when I joined the Canadian Forces the issued rifle was an autoloader as I had to shoot from the Left shoulder since my left eye was my master eye and I have impaired vision in my right. I have seen videos of Bisley where some competitors reach over the rifle to work the bolt with the left hand but it appears awkward and at any position other than prone presents some difficulty. I fear my score in the Mad Minute would be unsatisfactory.
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Posted: May 08 2024 at 4:00am |
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I shot a match some years back that was similar to the Mad Minute with the M1 rifle. We had a stack of 8 round clips and we shot as many rounds as we could in 50 seconds into a silhouette target at 300 yds, can’t remember exactly which target. It was a simplified variation of the “National Trophy Infantry Team Match” where a team of six shooters engage 8 targets.
I managed 24 hits (three clips), which is kinda pitiful considering this was a M1! I remember trying to figure out the breathing because I was used to shooting one shot per breath (about 3 seconds) in our normal rapid fire stages. I suspect you need to hold your breath for the mad minute while you’re shooting then take quick breaths while you reload. |
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Posted: May 08 2024 at 5:11am |
a very deep breath. I used to polish the rounds adapt the clips to fit and then used black grate polish. This was allowed in the rules I set. As if you make it too hard shooters get disillusioned and won't compete. However. This was shot at 300. So wind had to be factored in. Even with my training and lots of range time in a previous life. The most I ever scored was.......22 hits. Way off the record set. But immense fun
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Posted: May 08 2024 at 5:30am |
I've certainly done similar for the Trafalgar meeting and kept certain chargers separately for the ease with which they let me push rounds out of them into the magazine for the mad minute. Some 20 plus years ago I observed chrome plated chargers being used by some of the more "gamey" competitors, much frowned upon by the rest of us!
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